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I'm often behind the eight ball on such matters. So I'm probably the last person to realize this. But I was just watching Spiderman Unlimited on Netflix. In the second episode Spiderman comes across the resistance base on Counter Earth. When I see the base I notice a distinct (very distinct) similarity to the resistance bases on Praetoria.


 

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you made it into the series further than me


 

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Resistance groups working in sewers is a very old trope. Not everything is related to CoH.


 

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I love your avatar. That is all.


 

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Ok, I have to agree. Whoever designed the resistance bases is either psychic or a fan of the series.


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Pipes and grates in an secret underground sewer base? Who knew!


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Well this isn't anything the Dev's haven't done in one area or another throughout the game...

"These speakers go to 11" .. Not so veiled reference to the movie Spinal Tap

The references to Penelope Pitstop in the Penelope Yin Arc in Faultline.

Many of the zones in Dark Astoria being associated with film maker George Romero.. including Romero Hieghts LOL

So some Dev likes the series and modeled the underground bases on it's underground bases.


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Resistance groups working in sewers is a very old trope. Not everything is related to CoH.
Especially since Spider-Man Unlimited precedes CoH by 5 years and GR by 11 years.

That screenshot doesn't really look anything like the Resistance bases beyond the fact that they are both resistance bases inside a sewer. I really doubt it's a reference.


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Especially since Spider-Man Unlimited precedes CoH by 5 years and GR by 11 years.

That screenshot doesn't really look anything like the Resistance bases beyond the fact that they are both resistance bases inside a sewer. I really doubt it's a reference.
I've never seen any sewers in any fiction that have that similarity of a series of metal silos lined up in pairs parallel from one another, across a straight central walk way, leading to a central mechanical focal point, right below a series of catwalks.

Unless I missed that episode of ninja turtles.


 

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Well this isn't anything the Dev's haven't done in one area or another throughout the game...

"These speakers go to 11" .. Not so veiled reference to the movie Spinal Tap

The references to Penelope Pitstop in the Penelope Yin Arc in Faultline.

Many of the zones in Dark Astoria being associated with film maker George Romero.. including Romero Hieghts LOL

So some Dev likes the series and modeled the underground bases on it's underground bases.
In short, there are tons of references throughout the game. Jack was a history buff so the game has numerous references he put in. This says nothing of all of the stuff other people added. The names of the detectives for radio mission contacts is one of the more humorous and obvious ones for anybody of certain age.


 

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I've never seen any sewers in any fiction that have that similarity of a series of metal silos lined up in pairs parallel from one another, across a straight central walk way, leading to a central mechanical focal point, right below a series of catwalks.

Unless I missed that episode of ninja turtles.

Sorry, but this is a fairly old trope.

Go watch Metropolis.



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Too close to be merely an old trope. That's like saying the bus scene in Doomsday had nothing to do with the bus scene in The Warriors because it's an old trope to have a bus full of bad guys.

But I think we need the artist to step forward on this one.


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Too close to be merely an old trope.
You're kidding right? It's not the trope because it's too similar to the trope?

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But I think we need the artist to step forward on this one.
No. No we don't. It's a common meme. Simply because there are other examples of the meme expressed elsewhere and earlier doesn't mean there was direct copying done.



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You're kidding right? It's not the trope because it's too similar to the trope?

No. No we don't. It's a common meme. Simply because there are other examples of the meme expressed elsewhere and earlier doesn't mean there was direct copying done.
Ok, now you are making no sense, or else you are not understanding what I am saying.

The trope itself consists of nothing more than "Unusually large sewers." that's it. It doesn't matter what form they come in if they are unusually large then they fit the trope.

However when the basic structures of said sewers are virtually identical then it can't be passed off as just being part of the trope. It only makes sense to acknowledge that there is a possibility that the resistance base in CoH was based off the one in Spiderman Unlimited. Especially considering how many other homages are present in this game.

Your argument is akin to saying a comic featuring talking salamanders who live in a sewer, fight crime, eat pizza and are taught by a boxing squirrel could not possibly be an homage to TNMT because talking animals is a trope that has been around forever.


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Another in game reference to TV that I noticed is the Warden Contact Jessica Flores. She is a nod to Mindy Kaling's character Kelly Kapoor from The Office. Anyone else catch that?