new channel for non-pvp pvp badges

There is a new private channel for badgers looking to get badges associated with PVP zones without the PVP.

Here is the only rule that I know of: If you are part of the channel you cannot take PVP actions against other channel members during planned outings/events.

For example, a group of people decide they want to go into RV and hunt AVs. You cannot use this knowledge as an opportunity to gather an apposing team to go in with the intended purpose of attacking that group.

You can however plan PVP events using the channel, as long as they are planned and everyone agrees, no harm no foul.

If you do break the rule, you are kicked from the channel and your global name will be added to a list of those that will not be invited back. All members are encouraged to report those that break the rule to a channel operator.

PVPers are welcome to join as long as they can live by the rule.

This is a private channel and we have been trying to build it quietly through word of mouth but have not had much luck, several members, but our play times do not generally coincide.

If this is of interest to you, you can get an invite to the channel by sending an in-game email to @jh2

still looking if you're anyone is interested

So let me get this straight. You guys want the benefits that are associated with PVP (badges, etc) without actually having to PVP?

Good Lord, grow a spine.

Considering how the pvp zones are generally devoid of actual pvp, and most of the arena action seems to be on test, I think you'd be waiting a pretty long time to get some of the badges without organizing something somehow.

sign me up! i wanna heads up when RP'ers are roaming the zones so i can pwnzface - err i mean join them.

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This will not end well.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea for trying to get the badges you want, and to be perfectly honest I'd be all for joining.

I just don't see how this could end well.

Honestly, for most of the non-time badges you won't even need a channel:

Bloody Bay:

Gunner Deactivate a firebase in Bloody Bay- Risk of griefing: minimal

Sirens Call:

No badges besides the time badge.

Warburg:

Rocketman / Rocketwoman Launch the Warburg rocket ten times
Risk of griefing: minimal/low- stealth powers are best, if you have two accounts and one is better at freeing you can always collect up the scientist and either just have them stop following you at the bases and pick them up with your other account or free 3 with one account then kill yourself 3 times with your other account.

Recluse Victory:

Tons of badges-
Pill boxes- pretty easy- someone may try to grief you by jumping in and clicking the glowie before you do, just put down a bonfire, burn patch, rain of fire (etc) to keep them interrupted till you can click it.

Capture Heavies- pretty easy- grab a heavy, run into a pill box and let it kill you, immediately run back out and click the heavy control again, if you are fast enough you will still be under the unaffected timer and can't be griefed. Alternatively, log yourself in and out at the control claiming the heavy each time.

Killing the signature: Heroes/AVs- This one will suck,and the griefing possibilities are very high.

You are DR'd so your soft capped def is no longer soft capped. You're permadom is no longer perma. However, the NPCs still are at their prei13 values so they are much harder to defeat now. Griefing of this is pretty lulzy- I remember watching a kin corr SB/FS lord recluse when he was surrounded by a ton of heroes and the result was pretty funny.

However, you should be able to avoid most griefing by just having a few people with alt accounts go to the other side you are working on: doing blue badges, have a few log in red characters. Have them tell you if a stalker is incoming (alternatively just have someone blueside on a veat with dual tactics). If you find there are a group of griefers who are constantly bothering you again just switch sides to a healer(ish) toon and constantly heal them, that will put them under heal decay where they are no longer able to heal themselves and will be easy to pick off.

I love pvp and while I enjoy zone, but I don't mind helping people get badges if that is what floats their boat.

My best advice to you if you are doing a zone type of event is - dont broadcast it, if you get a jerk, don't broadcast your rage (it only feeds the trolls) just do what you are doing and move on.

GLHF.

No disrespect, but, IMO getting those badges was a hell of a lot more fun and challenging to earn WITH player inteference. What was probably the best evening I have ever had playing this game was beating the Freedom Phalanx in Recluse's Victory. Defeating AV's while simulataneously reclaiming pillboxes from Hero player characters.... damn, it was epic.

In my opinion you have to EARN those badges. If it takes hours, if it means accepting to deal with player griefers, if it means recruiting a full two teams to compensate becasue you do not have any true PvP toons. Whatever it takes.

Hmm... PM me when you doing this, I haven't been playing lately. This would be something I'd be interested in.

Random thoughts after a brief trip to Recluse Victory.


Ah all this talk about the zone made me curious to see what it woul be like to take on pillboxed now that I have all my incarnate powers. So i headed to RV, grabbed a heavy and before the first heavy died U had 4 pillboxes open and hereos were headed to Bravo. I grabbed a 2nd heavy and took oput two more to WIN one for the Red team!


Okay all that aside if this channel really gets popular it coul not have come at a better time. Now we don't even need to limit ourselves to one eight man team.. We can form a league and enter RV, BB or Warburg with 2, 3 as many as 6 full teams. Now that's going to cut down on the speed each player earns badges since 6 teams can easily attack and defeat 6 pillboxes all at once (1 team of 8 to each PB with as many Heavies as we can grab.. and there aren't 6 heavies available at once). But we could quickly spawn the AVs again and again until we face every single one and everybody has all the badges.

LOL now obviously the chances we can manage to get 48 pleayers together to take out pillboxes at the same time is very slim but 2 teams? why not? And in a league we can easily and quietly communicate back and forth without using local, broadcast or request and every member can here what's being said no matter where they are. While I was in RV today I spawned Positron and Manticore after I defeated my 4th Pillbox. With 2 teams we could assign 4 members from each team to each AV and then all 16 members would get credit for, and the badge associated with, defeating them both. Two teams can easily take control of all available Heavies to work on that badge and by splitting them up we can each defeat 3 pillboxes per run. I know from past experience that once victory is declared(by taking out 6) that last Pillbox is worthless and doesn't add to anyone's totals if destroyed. Or both teams can attack all 6 Pillboxes to speed along that badge and spawn AVs even faster. Heck with 16 players and X number of heavies and pets we can attack all four gun emplacements at once and take down a box in no time. I forget the rest time after a victory is declared.. I think its 5 minutes? (someone can correct me if that's wrong its been a while). But in an hour or so we could probably get 16 people the badges for 10 and 50 pillboxes. And at the same time easily battle and defeat every available AV.

Oh and does the term safety in numbers sound familiar to anyone? Imagine the suprise if some hero or villain, depending on which side we are doing, sees a pillbox going down and decides to show up and attack hoping to improve rep and finds themself facing not one, not two not even 8 but 16 50 or 50(+1) levels with lore pets out, judgement attacks at the ready and buffed to the max for the zone. Top that off with, as I mentioned, the ability to stay in league chat so they don't even realize how many of us there are until they arrive.

Frankly not sure if that security is even an issue. The whole time I was in RV I saw one other player and he was another villain. barely even knew he was around until we wound up attacking the same Pillbox.. the 6th and final one for the victory. I think because I had out three sets of pets and did the majority of the damage he just walked away when we finished so I took control of the PB and RED TEAM WINS! Now I was playing during the day. I do know it gets busier and more actual PvP takes place in the evening hours. But we can try different times and see how things go. hey I am retired and enjoy the challenge of taking down the PBs .. anyone that wants to team up give a holler in the global and I will pull out my Crab and come help out.. Oh or my tanker, scrapper, whatever blue side LOL

When you enter a PVP zone, you are consenting to any PVP actions taken against you. The "informants" that hover around inside/outside PVP zone entrances even say this themselves: do not enter PVP zones if you do not want to engage in PVP combat.

Thus, attacking people in a PVP zone is not griefing, even if you ask them to stop. By entering a PVP zone, you are accepting the fact that there is the risk of PVP combat that you will engage in, voluntarily or involuntarily.

My hero wants to arrest the evil villains that proliferate Paragon and the Isles. If he sees you, he's going to try and beat you up for being a villain. Simple as that.

Likewise, my villain wants to bust some hero heads. If those heroes don't want their heads to be busted, then they better show their muscle, not run away and cry.