fire/fire/fire build advice
What are you trying to do with your Tanker? Farm? Play general content and tank occasionally? Either way, your defense should be higher. The defense you choose would depend on what you want to do and how much you want to spend. You will definitely need Weave, and Combat Jumping is a good toggle that costs almost no endurance.
Every character should have received a free respec for Issue 20's release, and we get another one on April 28th or so for the anniversary celebration. All you have to do when you're ready is type "/respec".
I'd just rather not deal with the hassle of /respeccing, I know I used one to respec into inherent fitness, but not sure if it was before or after the most recent freespec.
I'm using him to play general content and tank occasionally. Going cardiac alpha, I could add a couple more toggles, but is the defense given by [Combat Jumping] better than the slow resistance given by [Temperature Protection]? I suppose that answer depends on what I'm fighting at the moment, though.
Even the inexpensive invention sets can make your character twice as survivable. Investing between 500 million and 1 billion can likely make your character almost ten times as survivable.
Your current build is basically random junk thrown together. You don't have enough slots in some powers and you have too many slots in other powers for an IO set build to be done well. The only thing worth saving is the Steadfast Protection knockback protection.
If you don't want to put a reasonable effort into making your character better, I don't want to spend more effort trying to help you. Good luck and have fun.
Syntax, your reply came off as kind of mean, not everyone is a master of Mids, or wants to master it in order to have fun in COH. (I happen to love Mids myself.)
Bubba, I'm not a king of fire tanking by any means, but I am gonna post a Fire/Fire tank just to give you an idea of some options. I went Mu instead of Fire as it gave me what I wanted in two power choices instead of three, giving me one more slot for another power.
This is not the perfect tank build, just some ideas, I know there is probably plenty wrong with it, but I believe it softcaps Smashing, Lethal, and probably also Energy/Negative with one small purple luck. I chose full invisibility/sprint to allow a tank to run up and position himself just where he wants to without aggroing most enemies before he cuts loose with his alpha (since Stealth also adds almost four percent defense).
I usually post the short form post, but I'm gonna post the long form here as I'm not sure if it might not help you more since you aren't that into mids. Just use the parts that do help you and ignore the rest.
And in my opinion, Combat Jumping's defense is better than the 20% slow resist in Temp. Protection.
Some of these can be expensive but if you don't have a lot of inf, do five tip missions a day on every character you can manage to and you'll soon have just about any IO you want.
PS If you don't love stealth, you can substitute Maneuvers.
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!!Fire Fire Tank: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura
- (A) Eradication - Damage
- (3) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (5) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Eradication - Damage
- (7) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (13) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (15) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (15) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (21) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
- (23) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (23) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (25) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (25) Recharge Reduction IO
- (27) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Resist Damage IO
- (21) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (27) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
- (29) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
- (29) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
- (A) Eradication - Damage
- (31) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (48) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (34) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Eradication - Damage
- (36) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (36) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (39) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (43) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun
- (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (46) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (46) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Damage Increase IO
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Celerity - +Stealth
- (48) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (40) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
- (46) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
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Syntax, your reply came off as kind of mean, not everyone is a master of Mids, or wants to master it in order to have fun in COH. (I happen to love Mids myself.)
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It was nice of you to post a build, but he can't use it without respeccing.
I have no problem helping someone make a build if they show an effort and desire to have a good character. He refuses to use a free respec when we have another coming in a week because it is too much of a "hassle". If you aren't even willing to spend a few minutes to move powers and slots around, why bother spending hours crafting IO sets and slotting them? That just seems lazy to me.
It was nice of you to post a build, but he can't use it without respeccing. |
I will suggest to the OP to look into the guide section, not to obtain a complete build but to take a look at how individual powers have been slotted and to see if the number of slots in a power equals his enough to slot the same way.
If I posted my build it would mean a respec.
Bubbawheat are you having fun with that Firetank?
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
A few things:
Thanks to Jericho for the build, I'll check through it and see what looks good to try and fit into my build.
Syntax: I do think you were being a little harsh, but you did make me think about what I really wanted as far as advice goes. Yes my current build is very random - it's a starting point. Also, I'd rather not respec "right now" because I don't want to create a bunch of empty slots in preparation for "my new build" which I plan on building for a good long while. (P.S. we're getting another freespec in a week? Didn't realize that.)
I realize that what I'm looking for is advice on what sets I should start getting that I can slot right away and start getting use out of immediately (especially if they're inexpensive), but will also be needed in a better all-around build. I'm looking to improve my survivability, and if possible increase damage slightly.
New Dawn: Yes, I'm having fun. This is my third fire/fire to hit 50 (previous being a Brute and a Blaster, with a Dom closing in at 43) and it's currently the character that's getting the most playtime - I'm a recovering alt-o-holic, it's been 105 days since I rolled a new alt (number is made up, but probably not too far from reality).
I have no problem helping someone make a build if they show an effort and desire to have a good character. He refuses to use a free respec when we have another coming in a week because it is too much of a "hassle". If you aren't even willing to spend a few minutes to move powers and slots around, why bother spending hours crafting IO sets and slotting them? That just seems lazy to me.
It was nice of you to post a build, but he can't use it without respeccing. |
Your communication skills stink, so people are gonna start ignoring you.
Learn.
That said, I hate doing respecs, they are not fun for me. I will play suboptimal characters rather than suffer the respec process.
And ya know what? I have a blast with them. My elec/elec scrap with flight is a prime example.
I just LOVE that toon.
I post on these forums to help others with their builds because making builds is complex and ruining a build is too easy. It can take an hour or more to craft and slot IOs for an entire build. It only takes about 10 minutes to respec. It takes less than 5 minutes for most people to log in to the game and see if they have a respec available. I have spent hours posting to try to help other people with their builds, but the three of you think it is unreasonable for me to expect someone I'm trying to help to spend 5 or 15 minutes on their own character?
Even if you don't have the INF to invest in IOs, you can slot a build with SOs. It won't hurt your performance much if the slots are moved around, but you will be ready for the IO sets and you won't be wasting the free respec that was granted for I20. Basically, there are no good excuses for not respeccing before the next free one comes if you have one available now. Checking to see if you have one only requires you to log in to the game. It will say if you have an unclaimed respec available, or you can type "/respec" and click back or cancel to not use it right away.
My communication skills are fine. My communication style is what you have a problem with. I am blunt and to the point and I don't tolerate a lack of effort on other people's part when I am putting forth effort to help them. If you don't like that and you want a carebear-loving forum, try the Hello Kitty Online Adventures forum.
the three of you think it is unreasonable for me to expect someone I'm trying to help to spend 5 or 15 minutes on their own character?
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I understand that some people word things like they expect everything on a plate, or make no solid attempt when they can use Mids. You may help someone and never ever know whether or not they returned to the thread. It may mean that you've wasted your time. You like me try to avoid that and as a result I sometimes only like to give up my time when I see the OP replying to other peoples advice, often adapting their builds from the advice given by others. It is then, that if I can see something further to add, I'll add. At times I am too short on time.
My communication skills are fine. My communication style is what you have a problem with. I am blunt and to the point and I don't tolerate a lack of effort on other people's part when I am putting forth effort to help them. If you don't like that and you want a carebear-loving forum, try the Hello Kitty Online Adventures forum.
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Alot of people have concept builds, I do, they may not be considered great but they are paid for and dearly loved by the people who have them. The people in this game come from all walks of life. A player could just have one arm or something personal going on in their lives and need the game for some sort of escapism. It's not carebear like to be forgiving with people who can't live up to your standards its being human like.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
It's not carebear like to be forgiving with people who can't live up to your standards its being human like.
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I do have an issue with this:
I'd just rather not deal with the hassle of /respeccing, I know I used one to respec into inherent fitness, but not sure if it was before or after the most recent freespec.
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At that point, I don't even want to try to come up with a build if I'm restricted to not moving slots around. The likelihood of it turning out to a quality that I would be satisfied with is very low. It would likely be a waste of INF to put together when a better build could be done so easily by moving a few slots around. It takes much longer to craft IOs than it does to /respec and fill everything with temporary SOs.
And yet you continue to spend much more than 5-10 minutes reading and responding to this thread. If you don't want to help, that's fine, but I'd rather not sit here and discuss over and over about why you don't want to help me.
OP very first post:
Nothing decisive so far aye? OP has not said that a respec is out of the question.
You Mr Syntax:
It sounds like you don't want to put any effort into your character...
Your current build is basically random junk thrown together.. If you don't want to put a reasonable effort into making your character better, I don't want to spend more effort trying to help you. |
You again Mr Syntax:
He refuses to use a free respec when we have another coming in a week because it is too much of a "hassle".
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Your post makes it sound like you think I had an issue with his build or how he posted it on the forums. I want to be clear and state that I do not have an issue with it
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We all have one of them weeks so don't worry.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Bubbawheat are you stern about your power choices? I for one wouldn't be without taunt cos tanking AVs with a Firetank and I don't care which AV it is it was never out of the question. Melt Armour is long recharge, end heavy, pants solo and over time not as good as Assault which also offers protection to taunt and placate but nevermind that, what I am saying is I would have something else from the epic to get fireball later with.
Also my aim with my Firetank would be to live long enough for RotP to recharge as she is so conceptually Phoenix like, this means not being the strongest Firetank but being fun. About yours? Would you prefer yours to be all defensive like because Jericho has made a good start and if you'd prefer to stay with your epic I could adapt that start and change it to match your build more. This would only take me 5 mins probably.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I'd heard [Melt Armor] was pretty good... in Thermal, but I didn't realize it wasn't all that great as a tanker. Like I said in the original post, I'm pretty happy with everything except [Breath of Fire], [Temperature Protection], and apparently now [Melt Armor].
As far as what I'm looking for, I don't need tons of survivability, but I'd like to improve survivability and wouldn't mind also improving offense.
Bubba, I have a decent Fire/Fire guide that you can find in my sig if you'd like more info and builds to play with. They are Mid's builds, just so you know, but you can look at them in the thread without Mid's (just a little harder to read, I think). My builds I have in there are meant to be economical, but good builds. Someone recently requested that I make a more expensive one, so I'm tweaking that now to put in there.
Regardless of what build you go with, do plan something overall and respec into that build... you can fill in gaps with SOs for now without spending too much cash. Anything else will just be more difficult and require more respecing: better to go in with slots placed where you know you want them, and go from there. You can also have a tray of ten IOs that you know you really want to place when you go in to the respec to the new build, to get yourself started.
Overall goals for Fiery Aura that helps are more defense (and damage you can outlast), more recharge, more HP. Probably in that order, and also with enough recovery to not get an empty blue bar before Consume recharges again. The type of defense you go for is kind of up to you... getting a lot of S/L defense is one approach that works well. I also like my defense build that covers the more exotic damage you can cover, like Psi. Either one can work, just get at least to 20% to really notice a difference for the type of damage you are facing. As another poster in that thread noted recently (I think it was Fulmens), getting to about 32% defense is pretty nice, as you can then soft cap to that defense type with one small purple.
Last but not least, Melt Armor isn't fantatastic, but it's okay. I prefer it over the constant End Drain of the Leadership toggles, and it does have a long duration. One thing in its defense is that it can go with your other -res sources, like Bruising. Even the Incarnate Interface power if you have it.
I would also highly recommend Taunt on any tank. You can see that debated in my guide as well, if you're up in the air about it.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
As another poster in that thread noted recently (I think it was Fulmens), getting to about 32% defense is pretty nice, as you can then soft cap to that defense type with one small purple.
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However, that is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
Here I've 'used what you got' Bubbawheat just to finish it, then in the next build I've changed it a bit for something that looks a bit more right that you might be able to get done in as little as one or two respecs (you should have 10 IOs in tray and so not throw away any costly IOs.)
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You could aim for 45% S/L def or something else but it should get more and more expensive. I've respeced out a complete build for something completely different before and in order not to throw IO sets away I spent 5 respecs.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Looking at some of the builds and focusing on melee damage at the moment.
Common choices include:
Kinetic Combat - Caps at 35, Health +1.5%, S/L /M Defense - 4 slots
Mako's Bite - Caps at 50, 3% Damage, 1.5% Health, Ranged Defense - 6 slots - avg 10M crafted (and I currently own 3)
Smashing Haymaker - Caps at 35, Health +1%, M Defense 1% - 4 slots - avg 5M crafted
Touch of Death - Caps at 40, Health +1.5%, Damage 2.5%, M Def 3.75% - 6 slots - avg 15-20+M crafted (currently own 2)
Crushing Impact - Caps at 50, Health +1%, Recharge +5%, Psi Resist +2.5% - 6 slots - avg 3-5M crafted (currently own 2)
From there, looking at 1 Mako 6 slotted, 1 Touch of Death 6 slotted, 2 Crushing Impact 6 slotted.
Would gain: 5% Health, 5.5% Damage, slight various Def/Psi resist.
Keep in mind that it's more efficient to build for positional defense OR typed defense, but not both, though you will automatically get some of the other kind.
Personally, I prefer typed defense, but if you want to go the positional defense route, stay away from primarily typed defense sets like Kinetic Combat and Smashing Haymaker. The bang-for-buck for those sets just isn't there compared to Mako's, ToD or Scirocco's Dervish.
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Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012
Build update and bump so I can find this easier. Current plan is to fully slot everything that's not changing, that way respeccing will be much easier. Definitely giving up [Breath of Fire] and [Temperature Protection] to pick up [Weave] and... not sure.
Also wondering if it's much of a difference for [Healing Flames] to be slotted with 5 Doctored Wounds and a heal instead of heal/end to get that extra little bit of healing instead of 1.26% Psi resist. Suppose maybe every little bit of Psi resist helps? Where an extra 10-20 points of healing might not? Especially if I go at least 2x Crushing Impacts and at least 1x Impervium Armors?
Current in-game build pulled from Titan Sentinel:
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I've been working on a Fire/Fire/Pyre build, too. Costs are running a bit high for my liking, but I really wanted to get within one small purple of softcap for s/l damage and two for e/n. It has over 2500hp after accolades and pretty decent recharge. Not happy with the accuracy of Scorch & Incinerate. I might end up skipping Pyre for Leadership...
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.93
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Flammable Flea: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19)
Level 1: Scorch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal(13), Dct'dW-Rchg(13)
Level 4: Fire Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(15), S'fstPrt-ResKB(17), HO:Ribo(21)
Level 6: Combustion -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 8: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(25), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(27)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam(19)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 16: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(27), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(29), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(29), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(31), Mocking-Rchg(31)
Level 18: Burn -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Dmg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(21), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 22: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(37), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 30: Tough -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(40)
Level 32: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 35: Incinerate -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(42), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- LdyGrey-DefDeb(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- Heal-I(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Boost
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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Level 1: Brawl -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(3)
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Yet another update, finally decided to try my own hand at planning a build. I'm not sure how well I did on this try. It seems to do several things moderately well, there's some good +damage, +recharge, and a bit of +melee defense and +Psi def/res too. I think this is a good start, and I'm already maybe 1/3 of the way there as far as what I currently have. Am open to suggestions on how to tweak this, or if there's anything I'm overlooking that would be a great help.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.94
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Burnt Matchstick: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), Sciroc-Dam%(50)
Level 1: Scorch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Fire Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(7), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(9), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), ImpArm-ResDam(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(17)
Level 6: Fire Sword -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(19), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Dam%(21)
Level 8: Combustion -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 10: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(23), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(23), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), TtmC'tng-ResDam(29), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(29)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(27), ImpArm-ResDam(48), ImpArm-ResPsi(50)
Level 18: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(46), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 20: Build Up -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Winter-ResSlow(31)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(31), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Sciroc-Dam%(33)
Level 30: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Rise of the Phoenix -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Incinerate -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(42), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(39), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(39), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), T'Death-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Char -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Rchg/Hold(42)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- AnWeak-DefDeb(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(45), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Partial Core Revamp
Level 50: Pyronic Partial Core Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Partial Radial Conversion
Level 50: Warworks Partial Core Improved Ally
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(25), EndMod-I(27)
Anything? Is this recent one ok for a general moderate boost to defense, damage, and recharge? Is there something I could be doing better? Currently about halfway done, hardest thing to get at the moment is the Obliterations. Thanks in advance.
Trying to figure out a good direction to go for my recently turned 50 fire/fire/fire tank. I'd like to stick to the less expensive route, but if there's some good stuff worth spending the money for, I'll keep an eye out for it.
Current build (don't have Mids, prefer to build little by little based on availability, drops, and current market, and ask advice rather than plan the whole thing out in advance.)
Basically have all the primary/secondary powers except [Taunt], Fighting pool for [Tough], Speed pool, and [Char], [Melt Armor], and [Fireball] from Pyre.
I'd rather not respec, but it's not out of the question. I easily could lose [Breath of Fire] and could possibly lose [Temperature Protection]. And I could eventually respec to re-order slots if needed.
Current Alpha: Cardial uncommon
Current S/L resist: 71%, E/NE 50%, Cold 30%
Thanks for any advice!
(Mids code taken from Titan Sentinel, if someone wanted to repost in easier to read form, it would be appreciated)