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The Lore buff pets that have the immunity should not be affected by splash damage, they are not just immune to being targeted, they are unaffectable (if you drop an AoE buff, that won't hit them either). The turrets may have the same type of ability that Hami has to hit unaffectable things.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Vivian
Just a guess, but although the Orbs are untargetable, they can still be damaged by Splash damage from AoE attacks, which may be what was killing them when fighting the Turrets?
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
The turrets killing the untargetable allies is probably a bug, which I bet the contains hurting decoys is also a bug. The turrets cannot hurt decoys, so it does not make sense that they can hurt one type of immune pet but not another.
Something else that can kill decoys, casting them in the ceiling...
Yes that is my Decoy's feet sticking out of the ceiling. Apparently they slowly die if you do that too.
"A true hero has the strength to stand against evil
without wavering where all others despair,
even if it means standing alone." - Kragothe Valour
Well, the way I always thought of Decoys was that they don't exist -- they're an Illusion -- they exist only in the mind of the affected targets.
So, they are targetable, and attackable, by those targets, but they take no damage at all.
On the flip side, something intangible, but real, like an untargetable Orb, might well be damaged by attacks that are trans-dimensional, such as the Hamidon's, or the Molecular Acid that can destroy dimensional gateways, or even those giant, hyper-powered turrets.
Or maybe it is just a bug. 
-- Vivian
Ah yes, the 'its just a game' card. Of course its just a game and shouldn't be taken too seriously, no one in their right mind would argue otherwise.
Interesting you should play that card though, since in your OP you said you take tanking seriously and seem to take pride in it.
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Who exactly are you referring to with the "'its just a game' card.'" comment? Unless I missed it WEI never said anything like that other than "Sometimes I think people take this game far too seriously." Which is saying that people take it too seriously, not saying that there is anything wrong with being serious sometimes. That makes no mention of it being just a game.|
Originally Posted by Silas
Ah yes, the 'its just a game' card. Of course its just a game and shouldn't be taken too seriously, no one in their right mind would argue otherwise.
Interesting you should play that card though, since in your OP you said you take tanking seriously and seem to take pride in it. |
So I am not following you on this, unless you are just attempting to start a flame war? Which is not cool...
Get it flames not cool, lol (Yes, I know that was lame, but you laughed admit it
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Not trying to start a flame war. I just object to that kind of line because a) its obvious this is a game and shouldn't be taken seriously and b) it carries the implication that whoever the person is discussing with takes the game too seriously. Passive aggressive ad hominem, if you will.
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Originally Posted by UNB0UND_4_LIFE
[...]It's a game. It's all fun.[...]Sometimes I think people take this game far too seriously.
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Nah. Some people do need to be reminded that it is only a game.|
Originally Posted by Silas
Not trying to start a flame war. I just object to that kind of line because a) its obvious this is a game and shouldn't be taken seriously and b) it carries the implication that whoever the person is discussing with takes the game too seriously. Passive aggressive ad hominem, if you will.
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Lighten up, Francis.
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Originally Posted by Navy Spider
Nah. Some people do need to be reminded that it is only a game.
Lighten up, Francis. |
Good one! You should see those people yelling at the top of their lungs when someone makes a mistake on the "new" trials. AND worst some people thought they are geniuses of the GAME .. I wonder how they deal with challenges in the REAL WORLD. Grow up little boys! You pay $14.99/month to relax not to get a heart attack playing the game!
OMG no but I want people to play the game the way I want them too. Nifty concept if they pay for it they should be able to play it the way they want too!! LOL
Had some good bad and really ugly trials. The only thing I find irritating is everyone who leads these things will lead them different from others. Learn to adapt to what the lead says dont whine in league channel. I just sigh when I see " Thats not the way its done" come across the chat. The most irritating one is who do I hand my stuff too in LAM trial. I dont do that in mine I have my reasons. Mainly because Ive had several dc's on the person holding the temps. But if I say just use it yourself your a big kid and hit lol. Dont get snippy with me!
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But it's not done that way Willow! That's it I'm telling everyone to hand you the temps!!! No snippy replies, Willow lubs me, almost as much as she lubs Vixen.
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Originally Posted by Willow21
The only thing I find irritating is everyone who leads these things will lead them different from others. Learn to adapt to what the lead says dont whine in league channel. I just sigh when I see " Thats not the way its done" come across the chat. The most irritating one is who do I hand my stuff too in LAM trial. I dont do that in mine I have my reasons. Mainly because Ive had several dc's on the person holding the temps. But if I say just use it yourself your a big kid and hit lol. Dont get snippy with me!
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That's simply lubberly.
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Speaking of Lambda... If I ever find those lvl 50 noobs that cannot tell if they have an Molecular Acid, I'd never invite them again.
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Originally Posted by Willow21
OMG no but I want people to play the game the way I want them too. Nifty concept if they pay for it they should be able to play it the way they want too!! LOL
Had some good bad and really ugly trials. The only thing I find irritating is everyone who leads these things will lead them different from others. Learn to adapt to what the lead says dont whine in league channel. I just sigh when I see " Thats not the way its done" come across the chat. The most irritating one is who do I hand my stuff too in LAM trial. I dont do that in mine I have my reasons. Mainly because Ive had several dc's on the person holding the temps. But if I say just use it yourself your a big kid and hit lol. Dont get snippy with me! |
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Originally Posted by Silas
Not trying to start a flame war. I just object to that kind of line because a) its obvious this is a game and shouldn't be taken seriously and b) it carries the implication that whoever the person is discussing with takes the game too seriously. Passive aggressive ad hominem, if you will.
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So, when I said "sometimes I think people take this game far too seriously" it was not only a personal statement, but it was also biased by my own experience based on the following:
1) I feel there's nothing wrong or contradictory with being a serious gamer and there's nothing wrong or contradictory in saying that I tank "seriously" aka with genuine, earnest intent. I play my role seriously because I find it's fun to do so, and in so doing I hopefully assist someone/everyone else (aka teammates/leaguemates) to have an enjoyable time playing the game.
2) I don't take the game "too seriously" - as in I don't, for example, roleplay (though there's nothing wrong with that, it's just not my thing), nor do I PvP (again, not my thing) - to me, these things are "too serious"
3) I don't take the game "far too seriously" - as in I don't lose my mind and/or start cursing out/demeaning/insulting/belittling other players because they:
a) play incompetently,
b) are no.Obs who make errors,
c) are experienced gamers who play like no.Obs,
d) are the in-game a$$holes that grief whatever they grief,
e) etc.
While reading my statement, I'm quite certain that you had your own interpretation of what "seriously", "too seriously", and "far too seriously" were.
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Wei Jun, it is an honor. I have heard of your prowess as a tank, and I thank you.
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Originally Posted by BeornAgain
Wei Jun, it is an honor. I have heard of your prowess as a tank, and I thank you.
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I tried to post in this a few days ago but couldn't get the page to load so please forgive the tardy reply.
Personally, for me a tank is there to take the aggro. They can't do that if held and getting the whole team held (by not backing off) is to me just a tank not doing its job. (My personal view of the AT, I don't believe I've ever had experience of your tanking although I think I was on one unpleasant BAF with you or perhaps another tank that just stood there and got the whole team held.)
I note you said in another thread you've changed your playstyle a bit but personally all I'd have asked is to know in advance (preferably before the BAF started) that you don't back off. If I know before then I can leave the team. If you don't mention it until after the start then I'd have to watch your details and back off which wouldn't be my first choice having to micromanage another team mate but ... it's better than getting wiped.
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The majority of times that I was sequestered, I never lost aggro. The few times I did, there was another tank there that pulled the aggro off me. And NEVER, I repeat, NEVER has there been a team wipe when I was sequestered in AV melee. And I always told the league ahead of time that I was ignoring the sequestration warnings. But since I've changed my style/technique due to thread opinion/request, it's now a moot point.
Thanks for your help tonight on my doomed Lambda run. I really appreciate it and was fascinated that we could doom the whole league to the Thread reward table.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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Ouch. What happened?
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
Thanks for your help tonight on my doomed Lambda run. I really appreciate it and was fascinated that we could doom the whole league to the Thread reward table.
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Yeah, you're definitely gonna have to elaborate Strato. That sounds intriguing.
I wanted to to run a Lambda where we did a minimal amount of the needed objectives while still trying to succeed. I also was personally dogging it badly (and so were a few others). I was trying to see if I could manufacture the thread table drop.
Here is a post with some more details and a video link.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
Thanks for your help tonight on my doomed Lambda run. I really appreciate it and was fascinated that we could doom the whole league to the Thread reward table.
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I'm pretty sure the aggro would be dropped regardless of how tightly you hug them, but ok
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Originally Posted by UNB0UND_4_LIFE
Because 50% of the time when I have backed-away and taunted/attacked the reinforcements (which I actually also do during my blind button mashing) I still have the AVs aggro, still get held (sometimes along with the ranged fighters that were safely behind me), but now lose the AVs aggro, the AVs separate and go after squishies, players die, there's screaming, crying, etc etc LOL yeah, so chaos ensues.
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Just a guess, but although the Orbs are untargetable, they can still be damaged by Splash damage from AoE attacks, which may be what was killing them when fighting the Turrets?
-- Vivian