Petition for making incarnate drops random

They are based on some unknown metric of "participation?" So that means you can do your part perfectly every time and never get a very rare drop because you aren't a specific AT or powerset. That is complete and utter BS and the worst idea I've seen since NC took over.

It could also be that you have one of the least active secondaries for MMs. I would make sure you are bubbling as many teammates as possible and using the AoE attacks as often as possible. It may be that your pets are doing so low damage numbers and you don't have enough personal attacks/debuffs for the system give you enough credit. Just a thought since other MMs players aren't having the same experience. They may be /dark or /TA and are getting more credit for heals or debuffs.

Maybe I'm clueless, but I always assumed the reward window you got was random.

Is it instead based somehow on your performance in the trial?

Threads and exp seem to be distributed inequitably, but that's because rewards are based on the group you're in, rather than the league as a whole (so a group that kills more stuff because it has more damage dealers or because it's on add duty or whatever will receive more threads/exp.) That doesn't have anything to do with the reward window, though.

What does "certain characters clump around certain rewards in a very un-random way" mean? This sounds like confirmation bias to me.

Just adding to this stuff, about BAFs which I do most of the time:

My widow got mostly uncommons and rares. If it's based on combat log stuff that seems right. She's constantly attacking and buffing and taunting and doing stuff. But she's ST centric and doesn't do great on adds (except one at a time) or against the runner phase (I summon Lore pets and let them do it). I did probably around 50 trials with her.

My Dom is very AoE centric, and very good at the runner phase. She has around 7 AoEs that pop up in the combat log. As a result she gets all rares and VRs. In under 15 runs she got three VRs. My widow had to do around 50 runs to get 2 VRs. My Dom has more rares than she can do anything with, and had 3 rares made before the slots were even unlocked. She's NEVER gotten anything worse than an uncommon (and the uncommon was only three times), except the one time she came in at the tail end of phase four. Imagine that, she got a thread table.

My Elec/Inv Brute is horrible at BAF. She doesn't have ST focus, and doesn't have taunt. Her AoEs fire extremely slow, and she gets confused during the runner phase. So she can't camp doors, can't chase down enemies very well, can't tank AVs, and her ST contribution is low. She has never gotten a rare, and in fact gets thread tables fairly often.

I know there are people who have evidence like "I leeched and got a VR," but my own experiences are pretty much "I did x and got exactly the expected results based on a contribution-based system."

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Is there a possibility it is only partially random based? From reading others posts and from what I have experienced I thought that the system might be using participation to see how much you can earn, then randomly choosing from below for what to give you.

For example:
1) My tank just participated his butt off. The participation meter says I can earn up to a Very Rare, but have the possibility of anything below it as well (Very Rare, Rare, Uncommon, Common, and the booby prize).

2) My Controller just clicked buttons while I talked on the phone and texted Tiffany. The participation meter says I can earn up to an Uncommon, but have the possibility of anything below it as well (Uncommon, Common, Booby Prize).

This would explain the "I worked my butt off and got ten threads!" posts. Are there really people who have leeched and got Very Rares? I have never attempted as much and haven't seen any firsthand account posts in what I have read so far.

Devs just posted officially about this.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=258308

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Not that it actually tells us what participation really means.

We're starting to get a pretty good idea though. People with less AoEs get lower scores. People who attack or use less powers get lower scores. It may be more complex than this, but it seems to be based on "how many targets you affected during the trial."

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.