Lambda Badges??


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From https://help.ncsoft.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7997

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Of special note is a segment of the Lambda Sector trial associated with acquiring two kinds of temporary special powers: Molecular Acids and Pacification Grenades. These powers can be used on enemies within the trial, but badges can be earned if player characters pick up the Acids and Grenades without using them, in the following ways:

* Get 10 Molecular Acids and no Pacification Grenades, but don't use them, and get Antacid.
* Get no Molecular Acids and 10 Pacification Grenades, but don't use them, and get Lambda Looter.
* Get 10 Molecular Acids and 10 Pacification Grenades, but don't use them, and get Well-Stocked.

Of these, only the Antacid badge is needed for the Master of Lambda Sector badge.
Is this info wrong, or did they set the badge info and requirements wrong?? I've also heard that the two individual badges aren't awarding on their own at all, and that you need to do the combined one in order to get them all. Is this true? The GM answering my complaint about not getting Antacid is saying that you have to get them all separately, that they won't award together!


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i think they have the badge info for well stocked and antacid wrong

if you get all 10 acids and 0 pacifications and use 0 pacifications, then why not just go for lambda looter and get all 3 badges at once to make it simpler? and whats the point of the antacid badge if you cant use pacifications either?

honestly its seriously easier to just get all 3 in one go right now, since you have to get a badge for 10 of both and not using either

according to the badge info, it says you just have to get all 10 acids and not use any acids but does not mention pacifications at all, and therefore you should get antacid even if you used all the pacifications. this same theory goes for well stocked.


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
i think they have the badge info for well stocked and antacid wrong

if you get all 10 acids and 0 pacifications and use 0 pacifications, then why not just go for lambda looter and get all 3 badges at once to make it simpler? and whats the point of the antacid badge if you cant use pacifications either?

honestly its seriously easier to just get all 3 in one go right now, since you have to get a badge for 10 of both and not using either

according to the badge info, it says you just have to get all 10 acids and not use any acids but does not mention pacifications at all, and therefore you should get antacid even if you used all the pacifications. this same theory goes for well stocked.
That's pretty much what I originally thought. It seems to me that the GMs don't really know what's going on when it comes to these badges, and that the badges in-game are still bugged, since many are still reporting that they haven't gotten the badges yet.


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Nothing in the in-game text indicates that they need to be achieved separately. We did the requirements exactly as stated in the game, and still didn't get the badges (or haven't yet). That's ridiculous.


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I think the GM description is correct, it would account for why we aren't getting the badges. Given that's the case, thats really badly designed requirements.



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I think the GM description is correct, it would account for why we aren't getting the badges. Given that's the case, thats really badly designed requirements.
But it goes against what the badge prompts say. The prompt for Lambda Looter says:

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Complete the Lambda Sector Incarnate Trial having acquired 10 Pacification Grenades but using none of them.
It says nothing about not getting any of the acids. Going by the in-game prompt, you should be able to get all three by picking up all the temps and not using any of them, which is exactly what my Master of team did.

I will strongly agree that if this is correct it is terrible design. the Lambda Trial without any of the temps is very challenging, and we pulled it off with very little time to spare. If THAT doesn't make us Masters of the Lambda Sector Trial, I don't know what does.


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Just to clarify, the Lambda badges are not awarding properly. If you try to obtain one of the badge individually, you will not get the badge. For some reason it's not triggering the award trigger to give you the badge.

Now if you run both of them at the same time and collect 10 of each temp power and not use them, you will be awarded the badges, as the Well-Stocked badge will trigger the other two badges and award them to you.

Currently this is the only way to earn these badges, until the issue is fixed.


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Now if you run both of them at the same time and collect 10 of each temp power and not use them, you will be awarded the badges, as the Well-Stocked badge will trigger the other two badges and award them to you.
That's what we did, and we didn't get anything. We gathered all 20 temps (even double checked at the end) and got no badges at all. None were used, and no glowies on the outside map were clicked during the fight.


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I would imagine that the reason we aren't getting the badges isn't because they are broken, but that the current requirements are (for Antacid anyway) to pick up 10 acids and NO Grenades, whereas we are collecting ALL the temporary powers.



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I would imagine that the reason we aren't getting the badges isn't because they are broken, but that the current requirements are (for Antacid anyway) to pick up 10 acids and NO Grenades, whereas we are collecting ALL the temporary powers.
And that is a complete logic fail on the part of whoever coded those two badges.

It doesn't match the hint text for the badges (copied off of a live character):
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Complete the Lambda Sector Incarnate Trial having acquired 10 Pacification Grenades and 10 Molecular Acids but using none of them.
Just by the stated requirements this would be the easiest of the three badges to get.

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Complete the Lambda Sector Incarnate Trial having acquired 10 Pacification Grenades but using none of them.
No mention of not getting the other temps.

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Complete the Lambda Sector Incarnate Trial having acquired 10 Molecular Acids but using none of them.
No mention of not getting the other temps.

The problem is that you are making things even worse for the other two badges if you went by the support page. It doesn't encourage trying different things (get acids one time, get grenades another time), all it does is overwhelm teams needlessly.




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Yeah. The wording in game is a bit of a fail on the dev's part for Antacid and Lambda Looter if it REQUIRES getting none of the other temp powers. IF nothing else the team SHOULD have been awarded the "Well Stocked" badge anyway as we did EVERYTHING that was required of that badge.


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I would imagine that the reason we aren't getting the badges isn't because they are broken, but that the current requirements are (for Antacid anyway) to pick up 10 acids and NO Grenades, whereas we are collecting ALL the temporary powers.
Well, my team collected the Molecular Acids only and did not collect the Pacification and used none of them and we still didn't get the badge. So that theory is incorrect as well. The badges are as they are described, they just aren't awarding as they should.

Support didn't tell me what exactly is wrong, but they did say they those two badges were bugged and of course would be fixed in a future patch and to read the forums for further details. That's all I know.


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Fair play beef, when we have been running attempts we have always gone 20/20 on temps but if you've tried the requirements by NOT collecting one set then its definately a bug!



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yep, so that means the only way to get master of lambda badge right now is to get all 3 badges in 1 go through


 

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yep, so that means the only way to get master of lambda badge right now is to get all 3 badges in 1 go through
But they're not awarding that way either, as evidenced by my team.


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But they're not awarding that way either, as evidenced by my team.
Some people have received them, though. Apparently there is some other extraneous factor affecting whether the badge is awarded. El buggo.


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But they're not awarding that way either, as evidenced by my team.
Yes we know that the acid/pacify badges seem to be incorrectly linked together as in you have to get them all at once during one run or you get none of them.

But if you had a situation where you should have gotten them all in one run and didn't then you've either stumbled upon another related bug or something else happened in your unique situation to cause the badges to not trigger. Like Ironblade mentioned I was just on a league late last night that earned the MoLambda so apparently it's still possible to get in this current software build.

I guess if I were in your situation I'd petition it and see what happens. Chances are the GMs won't be able to help you but you never know. Good luck.


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Well, maybe today's patch will fix the badge problem. Then again, it might just fix an animation glitch that's barely noticeable.....


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Yes we know that the acid/pacify badges seem to be incorrectly linked together as in you have to get them all at once during one run or you get none of them.

But if you had a situation where you should have gotten them all in one run and didn't then you've either stumbled upon another related bug or something else happened in your unique situation to cause the badges to not trigger. Like Ironblade mentioned I was just on a league late last night that earned the MoLambda so apparently it's still possible to get in this current software build.

I guess if I were in your situation I'd petition it and see what happens. Chances are the GMs won't be able to help you but you never know. Good luck.
Thanks. Several of us are keeping the petitions going, and so far no luck. We did everything exactly like many others have stated doing who DID receive the badges, so who knows. It's all very screwed up and exasperating.


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In case folks haven't seen here(link) is how the badges are supposed to work apparently. Can't say I'm really a fan of having to defeat Marauder Three times. If you can do one of them...does anyone really think a team can't do all three...


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Well, if the badges are supposed to be awarded for not using any grenades at any time, I think the best thing would be to hurry up and go for the badge that awards all three before they fix it. Personally, I don't feel like spending all that time and effort going for the same badge three times (which is basically what they are).


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Well, if the badges are supposed to be awarded for not using any grenades at any time, I think the best thing would be to hurry up and go for the badge that awards all three before they fix it. Personally, I don't feel like spending all that time and effort going for the same badge three times (which is basically what they are).
I would normally agree, but right now my will to play is pretty much zero. I have limited play time these days as is, and I'm not in the mood to do what I've already done and should have been rewarded for in the first place.


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Well, if the badges are supposed to be awarded for not using any grenades at any time, I think the best thing would be to hurry up and go for the badge that awards all three before they fix it. Personally, I don't feel like spending all that time and effort going for the same badge three times (which is basically what they are).
Yeah, that's my feeling on the matter.


 

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I would normally agree, but right now my will to play is pretty much zero. I have limited play time these days as is, and I'm not in the mood to do what I've already done and should have been rewarded for in the first place.
At the moment I'm in agreement with you. I have absolutely no enthusiasm for any of the Incarnate trials at the moment, even for my other lvl 50 toons.


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