MoLambda baby

Had a great day of BAFfing...and many MoBAF's.

Then we gathered the troops and knocked down a MoLambda!
3 Rads and a Kin and lotsa damage, and we barely made it. It was tough.
Marauder dropped an unstoppable on us at 24% and it lasted three minutes, that made it a close one.

Sad thing was, even though we gathered all ten acids and all ten grenades, and used none of them, we got none of the badges. 16 petitions were sent...
(and yeah we got the synchronized badge...that one's easy peasy)

But dang it we did it, and it was fun. Booyah!

Grats to Brax, Arwen, Allyriah, Darkbringer, Rangle, Bleyszen, Beerpig, Phantom, Taboo and everyone else I forget...(sorry)

Grats guys!

It was one of the most fun and intense things I've done yet in game.

I got a generic response to my petition today. I'm hoping for actual resolution on the badges soon.

Thanks so much for a great team!

I talked to a buddy who's familiar with the requirements & he tells me that I was missing the requirements for two badges needed for MoLambda. (I don't know what they're called.)

One badge is for collecting all 10 molecular acids & none of the pacification grenades and the other is for collecting all 10 pacification grenades and no molecular acids.

Now I can't speak for everyone else that was on the team, but I know I haven't done that. So... who's up for two Lambda runs?

Oh & one of the people was Darren Shephard played by I think @Hyper-Evolved Ogre, though Darren might be on one of his alternate accounts.

It was Ogre's main account I believe.

Well shoot, we should have got Well-Stocked at least!
Checked SiberianTigress & that's a no go.

Antacid & Lambda Looter I'd say were written deliberately ambiguous so as to get people to try different things to get them. Though unless the folks that handle petitions enjoy dealing with the same problem time after time, it would probably be sensible to change the in-game text to describe the requirements less ambiguously.

I hope those requirements you list are wrong Red. That effectively means you have to defeat Marauder without any temp powers 3 times in 3 separate runs. Effectively that makes each of those badges the same exact thing. Not using them versus not collecting them is identical when it comes to fighting Marauder. I like to think our devs are more intelligent than that. They should have just simplified this... one badge for collecting all 20 temps, one badge for not using acid on any doors and one badge for not using any grenades. The whole "collect 10 and don't use" thing makes it unnecessarily difficult on the code tracking completion, particularly since there are deliveries during the fight, and that I think captures the intent of the badges.

Regardless, hopefully this will get resolved quickly one way or another.

I got an email that said my escalated issue was once again escalated. I logged Phantom in before work this morning and still nothing.

I sincerely hope that all sixteen of us are given the badges that we earned. As stated several times already, we did exactly as the badge text says to do.

Perhaps they haven't actually added these badges ingame yet because they didn't think any league would be awesome enough to earn them already.

Red, I definitely appreciate your efforts to post this detail here for us but my argument remains the same on this. We fulfilled the requirements exactly as they were stated in the game. In my opinion, listing extra detail in support article #eleventy billion (that most of the population didn't read) wouldn't really reinforce their position adequately enough to make me accept that decision. So...let's just hope they're taking the time to honestly evaluate our issue here.

Yeah, I saw some of that Arwen. Which has lead me to decide I'm going to wait & see how our issues get resolved.

That said...

Initially, I just wanted to understand what happened. Why didn't we get the MoLambda? If we earned it, then the game's broken, it needs to be fixed, & I should get the rewards I deserve. Also, if the game's broken, it doesn't make sense to try again until we hear the problem's been fixed. If we didn't earn it, then I want to know why not, so I can then go back & solve that problem with the assistance of fellow players! This means, the game isn't broken, but rather we got bad information & there's something we can do about it without dev or support team assistance.

As I said, I didn't know what the requirements were going in on the run, so I guess that makes me focus more on what the requirements actually are vs what the game said they were. I think the support team can only help when the actual requirements fail to get rewarded, and so again, it seems to me, it's more important to find out what the actual requirements are and then figure out if we met them. As far as I know, arguing that the game said this is the requirement when it really isn't the requirement doesn't give the support team the ability to grant us a reward we didn't actually meet the requirements to earn.

Now I don't know about you guys, but having seen how upset this experience has made you, I would like to see to it that this doesn't continue to be a problem. Thus to me, it makes sense to figure out what is indeed broken code & what is the result of bad communication. We can then pass this information along to the development team to get fixed appropriately.

Based on all the information available to us, the failure for us to be awarded Well-Stocked looks like broken code. The information available to us regarding our failure to be awarded Antacid & Lambda-Looter (& as a a result MoLambda) is confusing. Some information makes it look like it's broken, and other information makes it look like it's bad communication.

So yeah, if that support article is correct, this simply boils down to "beat Marauder with no temps 3 different times". That's pretty bad design for badging. It doesn't matter if the semantics are different, the other two are functionally identical to Lambda Looter.

Minimum, we should have gotten Lambda Looter (not Well Stocked). Your post has two of them switched Red, or they've updated that article... not sure which.

Just have to wait and see on a response I guess. I have another unanswered /petition that was from 4 days ago, so I'm guessing they're a bit swamped.

*continues trying to be patient*

Just going to shut up now & see what support decides. Probably should have done this from the beginning.

Saw the conversations from the Badge section that Arwen must have been talking about. I can see her frustration in that some are getting the badge & others aren't for doing the same dang thing. At this point, it seems it doesn't matter what the game says the requirements are, or what the requirements are supposed to be because they don't work anyway!

And then when I get home, I'm going to go out & smash me some BAF or Lambda or tip baddies. RAWR!!!

Oh hey, they escalated my escalation while riding an escalator.

Three days later and my escalation had not been escalated...I have received no emails other than the first one.

I honestly don't care that much about the badges, but it irks me that 7 years into the game the Dev's still cant release an issue in working order.

Perhaps now that the membership will be grinding their heads off to fill all their alts with incarnate powers for the next several months (if not years) the Devs can spend some time, perhaps, making the existing game work properly.

Hi folks, with regard to the badge issue we are aware of it and we will be posting clarifications about it soon. In the meantime, I ask that you not repeat any private communications (e-mails, PMs, tells) that you receive from NCsoft staff, as it is a violation of forum rules. (Specifically, rule #4)