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Originally Posted by makerian
ALL the commons (Arcane, Biomorphic, etc)
ALL the uncommons (Cytolitic, Dimension, etc) ALL the rares (Exotic, Ancient, etc) ALL the very rares (Forbidden, Living, etc) Is that correct? |
"Actually, there is a fifth reward table. Which only gives Threads or a Super Inspiration.
Should have screenshotted it, but it exists - only seen it once though!"
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| Follow up question: Do these new components sometimes just drop during the Trials? I think I have a couple I never crafted. |
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I saw that fifth table one time during a BAF where I had gotten mapserved and missed out on a large part of the trial. I managed to finally get back in like 30 seconds before the end. Not too bad of a choice because when you choose the option for Threads you get 10 of them. It was certainly better than nothing. |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
According to this thread:
"Actually, there is a fifth reward table. Which only gives Threads or a Super Inspiration. Should have screenshotted it, but it exists - only seen it once though!" |
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If you get one of the challenge badges in the trials you get a random uncommon component as a reward.
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Originally Posted by makerian
Follow up question: Do these new components sometimes just drop during the Trials? I think I have a couple I never crafted.
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Adeon, only if you get the badge? What about if you completed the task and would've have been awarded the badge, but already had it?
In other words, can you repeatedly do certain tasks to get an uncommon or is it just one time for each badge?
I was looking at my requirements. Seems like all 3 of my incarnates need 6,640 threads to get a VR in Interface, Destiny, and Judgement. Didn't bother with Lore yet, because I'm didn't look into what the pets do yet. But anything I can do to bypass thread conversion is good imo.
You don't get components again for repeating the badge objective, but you DO get an Astral Merit, I believe.
I have received Astral Merits on a number of occasions, so those seem to be repeatable. That's a good thing.
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Save your Empryean Merits then. Those can be traded for Rare/Very Rare Components at a better rate than Threads.|
Originally Posted by makerian
I was looking at my requirements. Seems like all 3 of my incarnates need 6,640 threads to get a VR in Interface, Destiny, and Judgement. Didn't bother with Lore yet, because I'm didn't look into what the pets do yet. But anything I can do to bypass thread conversion is good imo.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
You don't get components again for repeating the badge objective, but you DO get an Astral Merit, I believe.
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They give you an Astral Merit for sneezing. I have succeeded in exactly ONE incarnate trial but have about 20 Astrals.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
You don't get components again for repeating the badge objective, but you DO get an Astral Merit, I believe.
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That's because that was the only trial that you did with me.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
They give you an Astral Merit for sneezing. I have succeeded in exactly ONE incarnate trial but have about 20 Astrals.
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I know, I know, random is random but... I'm starting to wonder if the uncommon table is actually weighted like the common and vice versa. Think about it--only the tier 2(if I remember correctly) needs an uncommon while commons are used throughout. An uncommon breaks down into roughly 10 threads which can't even get a common. Therefore the common has a greater value overall. Something to think about...
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One thing to keep in mind though is that to make a rare, you need one of each uncommon, so they have value for that too. |
Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
I know, I know, random is random but... I'm starting to wonder if the uncommon table is actually weighted like the common and vice versa. Think about it--only the tier 2(if I remember correctly) needs an uncommon while commons are used throughout. An uncommon breaks down into roughly 10 threads which can't even get a common. Therefore the common has a greater value overall. Something to think about...
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Or at least that's how I think it works. I'm AFK and can't check at the moment.
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oh, you're right I forgot about that. I haven't made anything except commons because the rewards have been good to me.
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Originally Posted by firespray
One thing to keep in mind though is that to make a rare, you need one of each uncommon, so they have value for that too.
Or at least that's how I think it works. I'm AFK and can't check at the moment. |
You also get a random Rare Component for the MasterOf Badge. For the BAF, the MasterOf Badge isn't too difficult.
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I got the 5th table from a Lambda run last night in which I spent a lot of time dying, and flying back in, or lost and not knowing what to do, it being my first. I'm wondering if the game gives that to players it deems as not having participated enough.
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That's because that was the only trial that you did with me.
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Of course, after this, we managed to do some BAFs together and fail, but that was because we were trying to be cute and get some badges. Siege sure likes to take off.
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Invite meh!
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And after you left, I managed to get Master of BAF.|
Originally Posted by Ms. Mesmer
Of course, after this, we managed to do some BAFs together and fail, but that was because we were trying to be cute and get some badges.
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Why are Super Inspirations in a reward table of Incarnate trials?
Seriously, is that for real? Who would get that crap?
Devs are so annoying sometimes, those Inspirations are only there just to be chosen by mistake, come on.
I chose super inspirations (and several people have gotten 2 bil from selling them because people were using those items as money holders in the market. muahahhah). Also, I always seem to get the uncommon components, which at the moment, I don't need, and would most likely pick the wrong one for later down the road anyway.
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
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Also, at some point someone will be happy with T4's slotted and don't want to continue grabbing up salvage they don't need.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
Why are Super Inspirations in a reward table of Incarnate trials?
Seriously, is that for real? Who would get that crap? Devs are so annoying sometimes, those Inspirations are only there just to be chosen by mistake, come on. |
Has it been confirmed that the tables are truly random? I heard that the reward tables were based on performance, but I couldn't find any criteria on which that might be based.
For example, if I really need a common component, could I "downgrade" my reward by letting myself be defeated a couple of times in order to receive the commons table at the end?
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Yeah. I've already picked that option up a few times.
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Originally Posted by Maniac_Raid
Also, at some point someone will be happy with T4's slotted and don't want to continue grabbing up salvage they don't need.
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Ten, I'm not sure it could be confirmed without a Dev post to that effect. I queried a couple times on global channels in Freedom. I've heard people post that they did a significant amount of dmg and got that table.|
Originally Posted by Ten__
Has it been confirmed that the tables are truly random? I heard that the reward tables were based on performance, but I couldn't find any criteria on which that might be based.
For example, if I really need a common component, could I "downgrade" my reward by letting myself be defeated a couple of times in order to receive the commons table at the end? 10 |
I received it twice. Once on my newly minted Fire/Cold Corruptor incarnate and he was shielding, debuffing, and attacking throughout.
The second time was on my Fortunata. I did have to go afk for about 10 minutes. However, my Fortunata also received two VRs and 1 Rare from the reward tables.
I think it's random and it sounds like there's some silly talk going on. It's possible they could punish afk'ers and make their rewards worse, but that could be very hard to measure.
I get that stupid Pity-Thread-or-Insp table all the time.
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Based on my limited experience, it looks like the BAF and Lambda trial tables give you, randomly, the option of either:
ALL the commons (Arcane, Biomorphic, etc)
ALL the uncommons (Cytolitic, Dimension, etc)
ALL the rares (Exotic, Ancient, etc)
ALL the very rares (Forbidden, Living, etc)
Is that correct? I am trying to plan out my 'purchase' requirements, but it doesn't seem to matter much which route I go (for example whether I go Total Radial, Partial Radial, etc to get to a Radial Final Judgement).
I'm contrasting that with Alphas, where I could efficiently plan certain TFs to guarantee certain rewards at the end. This time, I could do just BAF (or Lambda) and still get all the rewards without having to do Breakdowns or Conversions, is that correct? It's a little luck of the draw if I get the Common vs Very Rare.
I know I can combine threads to help make these items.
I also understand about needing 2 Commons, 2 Uncommons, and 2 different rares to make 1 very rare.
Follow up question: Do these new components sometimes just drop during the Trials? I think I have a couple I never crafted.