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Do it on the Test server first.
You can copy over enough toons multiple times to have enough Inf and Merits to get all the recipes you want from Merit Vendors.
You can then respec infinitely since 'buying' a respec on Test does not actually charge your credit card.
You can then test your new build in real time on Test and decide if you like it or not.
Also, before you respec, use up all your builds.
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Let me back up and say... I'm more looking for sympathy than solutions. I use mids, but it makes me want to respec more. I use all three builds and then want to respec all of them.
It's an addiction. I can't stop. I don't want to stop. Yes I do. Wait...
brb respeccing.
Please I look at builds all the time. I often respec. I have Mid's, I have notebooks where I make specific respec notes that I keep right near me at all times when I play.
So what you respec a lot. I do to. Ask my SG. Im always respecing something sooner or later.. almost always sooner.
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Considering what a PITA it is to respec, I'd say you should seek out professional help! 
Who would want to respec when you could be out whacking foes?! Oh, right, you... 
Well, you have my my sympathy, even if I can't understand your illness - I have a 50 (one of only two) from a couple years back who has the sloppiest build ever and I still run her on occasion.
I've respecced my main probably 30 times at this point.
Respecced others a max of 15 times. I don't use multiple builds because I don't really want to spend the cash on multiple IO sets that are repeated across the builds.
I'm happy with my main for the moment, and only have 2 more respecs planned for now. I plan on switching my BS/DA scrapper from Oppressive Gloom to Cloak of Fear now that I have the Cardiac Rare slotted. And I plan on switching my Fire/Fire blaster to Mace Mastery once I finish taking him villainside. (worked out a build that softcaps S/L/E while still retaining the majority of his damage output and has over 200% regen)
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DanZero, it sounds like your issue is not that you don't plan your builds. Perhaps your "thing" (if you will) is that you like planning builds: putting thought into picking powers, figuring out the best slotting for those powers, and finally what enhancements to use. If you really want to stop doing this on your toons, I suggest finding ways to help others plan their respec. Spend time combing the boards for people who have posted their Mid's builds and offer feedback for them. Or keep your eyes out for people in-game who may be requesting help with their builds, and go fiddle with a replica of their toon on Mid's. The time and energy that you spend on your own toons would go toward helping to respec other people's toons, and that might help you focus less on tearing your own builds apart.
@Winter. Because I'm Winter. Period.
I am a blaster first, and an alt-oholic second.
If you actually start spending money to support your respec habit... seek professional help.
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I just RESPECced again last night. I can't stop. I tried. I stood by Jack for about 20 minutes praying not to click, but I clicked. I'm sorry to let everyone down again.
Last night, I dreamt that CoH decided to make RESPECs unlimited. I woke up sad.
Although I'm laying it on a little thick here, am I seriously the only one? Claws has done about 30 on his main. That sounds about right.
Don't get me wrong, I play. A lot. I have to in order to buy... well, you know.
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I can do a full RESPEC in 10 minutes with no mistakes, make some cash and boost effeciency. It's no pain to me. All glory.
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
Considering what a PITA it is to respec, I'd say you should seek out professional help!
Who would want to respec when you could be out whacking foes?! Oh, right, you... Well, you have my my sympathy, even if I can't understand your illness - I have a 50 (one of only two) from a couple years back who has the sloppiest build ever and I still run her on occasion. |
Personally, when I feel like I need to change the toon over and over and over again, it means that I don't really like the build I'm running.
Time to stop that and think about the play-style that motivates you. Then, pick your powers based on that play-style. If you like your powers, the slotting and minute efficiency gains are going to take a back seat to having fun by actually playing the character.
I have a level 43 blaster that's 3 years old. He hasn't respecced out of his fitness pool into inherent. He has a 6-slotted super jump. He could absolutely be more powerful - and he eventually will be. But I need to actually play him a lot more before I know HOW I like to play him. Once I figure that out, I'll burn a respec to build for it. Until then, it will be wasted.
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Originally Posted by MobiuS_I
Personally, when I feel like I need to change the toon over and over and over again, it means that I don't really like the build I'm running.
Time to stop that and think about the play-style that motivates you. Then, pick your powers based on that play-style. If you like your powers, the slotting and minute efficiency gains are going to take a back seat to having fun by actually playing the character. I have a level 43 blaster that's 3 years old. He hasn't respecced out of his fitness pool into inherent. He has a 6-slotted super jump. He could absolutely be more powerful - and he eventually will be. But I need to actually play him a lot more before I know HOW I like to play him. Once I figure that out, I'll burn a respec to build for it. Until then, it will be wasted. |
I think people are missing the point. I don't hate RESPECs. I love them too much! It has nothing to do with characters, builds or anything else. I love to RESPEC! But I can't stop!
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Originally Posted by DanZero
I like my characters too much NOT to RESPEC!
I think people are missing the point. I don't hate RESPECs. I love them too much! It has nothing to do with characters, builds or anything else. I love to RESPEC! But I can't stop! |
respec = changing your character.
If you love your character, then you don't want to change it.
Except, you do.
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<head explodes>
So, either you aren't actually changing anything when you respec, or you don't love your characters the way you think you do.
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Oh, I change them. I upgrade them. Some upgrades are only possible with a RESPEC. Sometimes, my vision for how to play the character changes. Sometimes the game changes and I need to keep up. Sometimes, I think "Huh... I wonder how cool it would be to six slot Bonfire?" Then I do it, then I think, "Nah, not as cool as I thought."|
Originally Posted by MobiuS_I
Yup, definitely missing the point.
respec = changing your character. If you love your character, then you don't want to change it. Except, you do. ... <head explodes> So, either you aren't actually changing anything when you respec, or you don't love your characters the way you think you do. |
Sometimes, I'm nagged by the fact that I don't have 5 LotGs and I need another defense slot. Sometimes, I wonder if that sixth slot in x powers would be better spent on y powers.
Mids is great for numbers, but how does that set up PLAY? Jack Wolfe knows. And he hugs me and tells me to be calm, be quiet, be safe. And then the RESPEC starts. Ding dang dang dang bang select select, mold, shape, spindle, slot are you sure? Yes. Yes I am.
For now...
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Originally Posted by DanZero
Oh, I change them. I upgrade them. Some upgrades are only possible with a RESPEC. Sometimes, my vision for how to play the character changes. Sometimes the game changes and I need to keep up. Sometimes, I think "Huh... I wonder how cool it would be to six slot Bonfire?" Then I do it, then I think, "Nah, not as cool as I thought."
Sometimes, I'm nagged by the fact that I don't have 5 LotGs and I need another defense slot. Sometimes, I wonder if that sixth slot in x powers would be better spent on y powers. Mids is great for numbers, but how does that set up PLAY? Jack Wolfe knows. And he hugs me and tells me to be calm, be quiet, be safe. And then the RESPEC starts. Ding dang dang dang bang select select, mold, shape, spindle, slot are you sure? Yes. Yes I am. For now... |
This is the best explanation yet. I'm starting to understand. I mean, I understand staying current with Issue updates. I even understand squeezing the last bit of uberness out of a build.
I just didn't get the "I wonder if" scenarios. I always just looked at the numbers in Mids. The reason is, in my experience, I don't really find a play difference between 5-slotting a power and 6-slotting. Sometimes the set bonus ups some defense here or there, but I got the same effect with popping purples.
So, I always choose powers based on how I want to play it, then slot it out based on the numbers. I never really "wondered if" -- I just started beating up bad guys.
Cheers.
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Well, look at it this way. If there's no difference six slotting a power, and you see that sixth slot sitting there... and have have 3 other sixth slots 'just sitting there', you could 5 slot a whole new power, get like 5-10% recharge bonus, or regen or use that power in a new and dramatic way (Rise of the Phoenix 5 slotted as an attack comes to mind), that's where the 'what if' comes in.|
Originally Posted by MobiuS_I
This is the best explanation yet. I'm starting to understand. I mean, I understand staying current with Issue updates. I even understand squeezing the last bit of uberness out of a build.
I just didn't get the "I wonder if" scenarios. I always just looked at the numbers in Mids. The reason is, in my experience, I don't really find a play difference between 5-slotting a power and 6-slotting. Sometimes the set bonus ups some defense here or there, but I got the same effect with popping purples. So, I always choose powers based on how I want to play it, then slot it out based on the numbers. I never really "wondered if" -- I just started beating up bad guys. Cheers. |
Mids won't tell you how it feels to hit that button after all hope is lost and see you've actually won the day even in defeat. And it gnaws at you, like a hungry beaver on a maple tree sandwich.
What if... your Dark Melee scrapper doesn't NEED three attacks?
What if... your defender might be better served with HoverPort instead of fly?
What if... Your 'sky is the limit' Tank suddenly craves stealth for a few speed runs?
What if... TP Friend just might fit in your Controller's build if you drop that ancillary you never use?
Can mids really tell you the answers to those questions? Does mids hug you and kiss you like Jack does?
I just returned to the game a couple weeks ago after a two-year Hiatus, and I'm going-through the slow process of respeccing my toons out of the old Fitness PP.
I've also noticed how some powers have changed, and what set IO's can (and can't) be installed in them anylonger. Usually it's the former, and new options are available that weren't before, but I've had one instance where the latter was true. Trap/Trip Mines required a complete overhaul, but the final result is actually better than the original build.
The trickiest part of these respecs is that with effectively 3 new powers, I have to redo my slot layout. I used to 3-slot Health and Stamina without a thought, but now that's not guaranteed. My Dark Defender only has 1 slot in Health (which is still enough for Numina's Recovery IO), and my Mastermind has only 1 slot in Stamina (she's a very end-light toon).
Do they still give out a free respec when a new issue hits, or just when there's significant power changes? For that matter, what power changes are we seeing in i20? Beyond the Incarnate stuffs and the couple new Task Forces, there doesn't seem to be much new in i20.
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Do they still give out a free respec when a new issue hits, or just when there's significant power changes?
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DING DING DING DING DANG BANGDING! Hit sale! Hit sale! I win!!!!
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There are two freespecs on the way with i20, rejoice!
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By the way,
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Originally Posted by DanZero
I can do a full RESPEC in 10 minutes with no mistakes, make some cash and boost effeciency. It's no pain to me. All glory.
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I think I've done two in for years. Then again, I don't mess with Mids much.
There's a lot of wind about Altaholics. Yes yes. It's a disease and blahhdeeblahblah...
I have a bigger issue. I'm all hepped up on RESPECS. I can't stop and it's ruining the game. I blow about 400 mil every couple of weeks on RESPECS. I've squandered all my vet rewards, my freespec... I even considered pulling all my expwensive enhancements out during my last RESPEC to pay for another RESPEC.
Any help for a junkie like me?