Perma-Hasten is back
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Posted on: 2011-03-31 14:13 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
This is very much the wrong forum for such questions, however: Perma-hasten takes less recharge than Perma-Domination does, and there's people with perma-dom, without using hasten at all.
Yes, it is very much possible.
@Roderick
yes, it's a certainty, permahasten is easily attainable with +recharge based sets
Don't be a mindless farm toon, we may need you on a non-soft SF someday. =)
It's been achievable for quite a while now, solo.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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If my math is right, with 3 slotted for recharge hasten, you need about 110% in global bonuses to get there. I have a character sitting at +121% right now with another +10 to go, so yes.
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Pardon the faux pas, which forum would you suggest as being the least inappropriate for this type of query?? (o.O)
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Originally Posted by Roderick
This is very much the wrong forum for such questions, however: Perma-hasten takes less recharge than Perma-Domination does, and there's people with perma-dom, without using hasten at all.
Yes, it is very much possible. |
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That's actually the other way around, you can achieve perma dom without perma hasten, but if you have perma hasten, you have perma dom. My earth/rad controller has perma hasten AND perma AM and i only have like 90% global recharge (before hasten and AM)|
Originally Posted by Roderick
This is very much the wrong forum for such questions, however: Perma-hasten takes less recharge than Perma-Domination does, and there's people with perma-dom, without using hasten at all.
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For those who like numbers, look over this site http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma
As you can see, perma dom actually requires about half the recharge perma hasten requires..
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Originally Posted by teamtuna
Pardon the faux pas, which forum would you suggest as being the least inappropriate for this type of query?? (o.O)
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Archetypes & Powers General Discussion
City Life - CoH & CoV General Discussions
The Market & Inventions
This section is for people that are encountering technical issues primarily, don't let the slash in the section name mislead you (it's not 'Gameplay' as well as 'Technical Issues & Bugs', but 'Gameplay Issues & Bugs' in addition to 'Technical Issues & Bugs'.
It's not really a big deal, though, mostly just for future reference.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I assumed that poster was thinking of it in terms of global bonuses. Since you can enhance hasten and it also gives itself +70, it actually requires less than perma dom in terms of global bonuses. (110 vs. 125).|
Originally Posted by Arbegla
That's actually the other way around, you can achieve perma dom without perma hasten, but if you have perma hasten, you have perma dom. My earth/rad controller has perma hasten AND perma AM and i only have like 90% global recharge (before hasten and AM)
For those who like numbers, look over this site http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma As you can see, perma dom actually requires about half the recharge perma hasten requires.. |
I admit that was my first reaction to it too though, that they had it backwards.
Thing is, you can get perma dom, without getting perma hasten, look over those numbers again. the 110 is adding in hasten, where the 125 is without hasten (so if you have only like 70% global recharge, but you have hasten, you have perma dom (total of 140%, or about ~125 with hastens bonus), BUT you dont have perma hasten, because you need an additonal 40% recharge)
If you have the amount of recharge in your build to get perma-hasten, but don't have hasten itself, domination isn't permanent. Also, you can't SLOT domination, so hasten has another benefit. Ergo, it's easier to achieve perma hasten, than hasten-free perma-dom, as I had previously said.
@Roderick
Hasten is a 120 second buff.
It recharges in 450 seconds.
So.... X recharge divided into 450 seconds to get 120 is....
375 percent (100 base, 70 for the power, then whatever combination of slotting in hasten, alpha slotting, set bonuses and buffs to get the last 205 is up to you).
Domination is 200 seconds to recharge and a 90 second duration. Using the above math means 122.2 in recharge is needed to match the time (you'll likely need to go a few seconds past to make up for lag/animation time of another power/etc).
So on the way to getting Permahasten, you can get Permadom.
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Three recharge IOs takes 95% or more off Hasten, leaving 110% from set bonuses, alpha, etc.
Unless you're silly and leave Hasten unslotted.
EDIT: Oh, and the Alpha slot doesn't affect domination, so again, Hasten is easier.
@Roderick
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Many thanks, as you surmised I did read the title as meaning "gameplay" and other stuff.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Player Questions
Archetypes & Powers General Discussion City Life - CoH & CoV General Discussions The Market & Inventions This section is for people that are encountering technical issues primarily, don't let the slash in the section name mislead you (it's not 'Gameplay' as well as 'Technical Issues & Bugs', but 'Gameplay Issues & Bugs' in addition to 'Technical Issues & Bugs'. It's not really a big deal, though, mostly just for future reference. |
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Destiny Ageless will affect the recharge rate of Domination too, but you cannot get that before level 50 and will stop working if you exemp below level 45. Dominators shouldn't have much problem using Ageless since they don't really need Clarion since with Perma-Dom they have status protection already. Rebirth dont seem to be a good choice for most Doms. Barrier can be interesting for the defense but I think Ageless is nicer for Dominators. It also grants End bonus and Debuff Resistance to about everything, including -recharge.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
Three recharge IOs takes 95% or more off Hasten, leaving 110% from set bonuses, alpha, etc.
Unless you're silly and leave Hasten unslotted. EDIT: Oh, and the Alpha slot doesn't affect domination, so again, Hasten is easier. |
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Yeah i don't like the new name for the forum. Simply adding Gameplay to the beginning makes it a bit misleading for some people. |
Originally Posted by teamtuna
Many thanks, as you surmised I did read the title as meaning "gameplay" and other stuff.
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I would have said:
Technical/Gameplay Issues & Bugs
I know it's basically the same thing, but at least the word "Technical" stands out (being first) and would be easier to find on the list of forums, and it's more clear that it's for "Gameplay Issues", not general Gameplay questions.
Is it true that with some of the IOs it is possible to have perma-hasten again? Does anyone know if this the case? Has anyone actually achieved perma-hasten? Is there such a thing as "too much" chocolate?
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