Let me put this in a different perspective:
Although I cannot STAND speed running (particularly TFs) missions and such, I cannot STAND having Leaping as my travel power on a character that has had Fly since I3. I will suffer the lesser evil to obtain the desired result.
(yes, I know I can "buy a jetpack", however, a jetpack isn't part of concept, no matter how much I try to go with it.)
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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<3 Myrmydon, even if I don't fully agree with you on some things
We need to kit you out with a farming Broot, call meh
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No. I look at wanting the most beneficial loot in the game worthy of effort to obtain it. My shorthand word, "work", encompasses many things. Playing baseball isn't work; getting paid 20 million dollars to play 162 games a year + of pro ball is something some people would call work, while others would call "Sign me up for THAT!" But in each case, effort, often unpleasant effort, is involved. |
Originally Posted by Myrmydon
Heh, you look at this game as work, I look at it as entertainment. I doubt we'll ever see eye-to-eye on this.
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You can substitute practically any activity for 'baseball'. The most top-tier performance in any endeavor always involves effort (which I call work) beyond the normal scope of most people. To want it to be otherwise is to devalue it, in my opinion.
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Heh, you look at this game as work, I look at it as entertainment. I doubt we'll ever see eye-to-eye on this.
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Originally Posted by galadiman
No. I look at wanting the most beneficial loot in the game worthy of effort to obtain it. My shorthand word, "work", encompasses many things.
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That sounds a lot like the effort needed to get the best loot in the game to me!
The same source also defines "entertainment" as "the act of entertaining; agreeable occupation for the mind; diversion; amusement: Solving the daily crossword puzzle is an entertainment for many.
I find their example vaguely wrong because of all the people that I know who like crossword puzzles, they all want there to be SOME degree of effort required to complete the puzzle or else they complain that it was too easy. And the New York Times crossword is generally known for being easiest on Monday and becoming more difficult as the week progresses. So those things make crosswords seem somewhat like "work."
If the OP wants pure entertainment without any sort effort, there's always television and movies.
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
Do I wish the system was better? Hell YES!
Will I quit the game over an over-priced IO that's going to let me keep my concept and my IO build? Hell NO! Don't think I'll bother getting one again since the number needed to get 2 of them will let me kit out whole characters with multiple billion Influ builds for confetti levels of influence ( I give away a lot to friends and such, so I only keep from 300 mill to 1 billion liquid at any given time).
I have my system in place to make maximum use of the merit system (Although, I think I'll leave some villians redside earning A-Merits for the sake of mission variety.
See, the whole thing has reduced my thinking of it to work, something I really hate to do in a game. And I have met many more people in the game that feel the same way i do than I have seen posters in here telling me "that is how MMOs work". Yes, well, men used to kill each other with shard slices of metal until someone came up with gunpowder percussion, then things changed. Everyone used to talk on home phones until cell phones became accessible and things changed.
People use to play basic video games on computers until MMOs came along and things changed.
Our Invention system could use one here.
Although, I must admit, it looks like the incarnate system is going to wind up as alt-friendly as the rest of the game and, just possibly, a better reward system than the current "trash-drop" Invention system we have in place currently.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight