Gauntlet and Procs


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I have two questions:

1. If you have a proc in an aura power and it hits, does it trigger it's own gauntlet? For example...

Chilling embrace in the Ice Tank primary can slot the Perfect Zinger taunt: Chance for Psionic Damage (20%). When it hits, is Gauntlet triggered?

2. Is gauntlet only for primary, secondary, or both powersets and does it also include your APP/PPP powers?

Hope I worded it correctly to get the correct answers.


 

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No, the proc does not trigger a second instance of Gauntlet. It's the other way around. When Gauntlet activates, you roll for the chance of the proc to take effect.

And yes, all Primary, Secondary, and Epic/Patron pools have the Gauntlet taunt effect.


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Originally Posted by Santa_Laws View Post
I have two questions:

1. If you have a proc in an aura power and it hits, does it trigger it's own gauntlet? For example...

Chilling embrace in the Ice Tank primary can slot the Perfect Zinger taunt: Chance for Psionic Damage (20%). When it hits, is Gauntlet triggered?

2. Is gauntlet only for primary, secondary, or both powersets and does it also include your APP/PPP powers?

Hope I worded it correctly to get the correct answers.
Are you sure CE can slot that? Thought they removed the Taunt sets from the auras (Issue with auras that also buffed the user).


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Are you sure CE can slot that? Thought they removed the Taunt sets from the auras (Issue with auras that also buffed the user).
That's what I thought too. I have an Invul Tanker that has the Proc in her Aura and I love it, but that's only because it's grandfathered in. If I ever respec that build, I wont be able to keep it.

Maybe the OP is in a similar situation?


 

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Also, Gauntlet isn't a power. It's just an additional aspect of each power that gives a Taunt-like effect. There's is no Gauntlet, really. Each Tanker power is just coded to provide the effect. So nothing but the powers themselves can trigger "Gauntlet," since it doesn't exist outside of the powers.


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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
That's what I thought too. I have an Invul Tanker that has the Proc in her Aura and I love it, but that's only because it's grandfathered in. If I ever respec that build, I wont be able to keep it.

Maybe the OP is in a similar situation?
I've heard that some (all?) auras now accept taunt sets again*. If you want to respec that tank for any reason, you should definitely copy over to test and see if you can keep the proc slotted; it might work.

*I've never tested this, it was never in patch notes, and I'm repeating pure hearsay. Do not test this on Live with a grandfathered build.


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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
I've heard that some (all?) auras now accept taunt sets again*. If you want to respec that tank for any reason, you should definitely copy over to test and see if you can keep the proc slotted; it might work.

*I've never tested this, it was never in patch notes, and I'm repeating pure hearsay. Do not test this on Live with a grandfathered build.
I'll certainly keep that in mind and try it once I decide to do that respec. I was planning on just using a second build instead, but if I can save some money by using some of my existing IOs, that's even better.

On a side note, it shouldn't be too hard to safely test on live either. You can either use a second/third build and see if it'll take the set, or just test it in the respec screen and never finish the respec so it wont make any changes.

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Simply checking the Enhancement Management screen shows you what sets the power will take.
Currently, Tanker [Invincibility] will still take Taunt Enhancement, but not Taunt IO sets.


 

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That's what I thought too. I have an Invul Tanker that has the Proc in her Aura and I love it, but that's only because it's grandfathered in. If I ever respec that build, I wont be able to keep it.
What's so special about having that particular proc in your aura? Because it's really cheap and it's Psi damage?

There's three other normal (20% chance for 72 damage) procs in the PBAOE sets (Eradication, Scirocco's Dervish, Obliteration) as well as the Purple (33% chance for 107 damage) proc (Armageddon) and then you also have the PVP Resist (20% chance for -20% resist) one (Fury of the Gladiator) as well.

You need an aura power 6-slotted with only Procs in it?


 

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What's so special about having that particular proc in your aura? Because it's really cheap and it's Psi damage?
Isn't that enough of a reason? But it's this particular one, because it's the only possible one that could even be there. lol

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There's three other normal procs in the PBAOE sets
That's great, but those aren't slottable in this power. rofl
I do have procs in my attacks already too.

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You need an aura power 6-slotted with only Procs in it?
Who said anything about 6 procs in it? The Taunt set only has 1 proc and that's all we're talking about here. The taunt set improves the power, and having 3 of them also gives me a 10% Regeneration bonus as well.

It's a pretty nice bonus when I round up a large group of foes and they start getting hit by a proc just for being near me.

FWIW, I have the same set and proc in my actual Taunt power for those extra hits too.


 

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But it's this particular one, because it's the only possible one that could even be there. lol
That's not right. Impeded Swiftness (level 10-30 Slow Set) has a Smashing Damage Proc in the set.
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That's great, but those aren't slottable in this power...
Who said anything about 6 procs in it?...
My bad, I didn't realize Chilling Embrace was not a Damage Aura which do take the Procs I was talking about and you can get 5 of them (4 Dam, 1 -Res) in them if you're so inclined. 6 if you're using Mud Pots (5 Dam, 1 -Res).

I agree though, they should allow Taunt sets in those powers again if they haven't already done so. Mids doesn't show them as available but I'd be surprised if they managed to sneak that by everyone that uses Mids and the Mids developers. They're pretty quick to update Mids with changes to powers.


 

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That's not right. Impeded Swiftness (level 10-30 Slow Set) has a Smashing Damage Proc in the set.
You can't put slow sets in an invuln taunt aura. *blank stare*


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You can't put slow sets in an invuln taunt aura. *blank stare*
Boy, I'm just making mistakes left and right here... I thought I was replying to the OP who was talking about Chilling Embrace, the Ice Tanker aura. I didn't realize we tangented.

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