A TF's dream brute (help!)


4c3Player

 

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ok so i want to be able to survive in the midst of mobs solo and rip them apart, just tell me your ideas for primary and secondary and epic (not asking for a build but you can post one if you wish)


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Didn't you just make a thread like this?


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One that can hold Lucks in their tray


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Didn't you just make a thread like this?
yeah similar but everyone got off topic lol


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this is a SS/SD build i whipped up,seems it could be quite good, wasnt too fond of Sd on my elec/sheild scrapper but this looks promosing,tell me what you think

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I love my SS/SD


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/will, /sd, and /invuln, do really well in nearly all endgame content. Invuln will be toughest, Shield will do better damage, and willpower does everything really well.

For a primary its really hard to beat SS. Rage is just that good.


 

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I have tanked almost all of the high level TF's with my SS/Elec Brute. ITF, STF, RSF, LGTF, Dr. Khan, Tin Mage, and Apex. I rarely play my Tanker anymore.


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Originally Posted by MajorTractor View Post
/will, /sd, and /invuln, do really well in nearly all endgame content. Invuln will be toughest, Shield will do better damage, and willpower does everything really well.

For a primary its really hard to beat SS. Rage is just that good.
tru invul is very good but i couldnt seem to get the melee/ranged and aoe def soft capped and that is a major goal for me


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Originally Posted by 4c3Player View Post
tru invul is very good but i couldnt seem to get the melee/ranged and aoe def soft capped and that is a major goal for me
That's because you shouldn't be trying to cap positional defenses on Invul, you should be going for typed on both that and Willpower.

If you really want positional defenses, go with Shield or SR, both of which live or die on their positionals. SR will be less expensive to softcap and has more affordable resistance to defense debuffs; Shield contains a wide-range non-crashing nuke and a damage buff and will be more amazing when it reaches said softcap.


 

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It is pretty easy to get typed to softcap on an invuln. Softcap s/l/e/n, capped resist to S/L, and 3000+ hitpoints on a Brute is mega tough.


 

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It is pretty easy to get typed to softcap on an invuln. Softcap s/l/e/n, capped resist to S/L, and 3000+ hitpoints on a Brute is mega tough.
yeah S&l def capped is easy ,but i prefer aoe/melee/ranged bcuz for s& l ill be awsome but if i get hit with fire im screwed


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yeah S&l def capped is easy ,but i prefer aoe/melee/ranged bcuz for s& l ill be awsome but if i get hit with fire im screwed
Not correct. The thing about fire (and cold) is that it almost never has def debuffs. This means that even 20% def or so is very noticeable. Unlike s/l, and some if not most of energy, where anything under the soft cap will evaporate within seconds.


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well i did not mean directly fire i meant anything except for S&L


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Originally Posted by 4c3Player View Post
well i did not mean directly fire i meant anything except for S&L
what you quoted said to soft cap s/l/e/n not just s/l.


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He's saying that capping S/L is easy, but since it's only s/l if he gets hit by another type of damage he's screwed, so he prefers positional because it protects against all ranged attacks, all AoE attacks, all melee attacks instead of just one type. He's not saying that fire attacks strip away his defenses (unless I'm wrong).

He wants SR or Shield. He's just being a little reluctant about committing to one of them.


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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad View Post
He's saying that capping S/L is easy, but since it's only s/l if he gets hit by another type of damage he's screwed, so he prefers positional because it protects against all ranged attacks, all AoE attacks, all melee attacks instead of just one type. He's not saying that fire attacks strip away his defenses (unless I'm wrong).

He wants SR or Shield. He's just being a little reluctant about committing to one of them.
very well put, tyvm squad thats exactly what i mean


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so theres been no comments on my build.that mean its good?


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Not really. You slot for way too much def, 3 def IO slots in CJ wtf? You gain less than 1% def from all of those slots. Overall id lose some of that that def, 47%ish is fine and get more +rech, end, hp etc.
You want 2 HO membrane exposures in Active defense.
And I would get grant cover, rather than energy torrent likely, the DDR is nice and your team will love you for it.
Not to mention the shield wall and pan proc are both pretty much worthless and not worth it in anyway shape or form, but if you want to spend the inf go for it I guess. Well, pan is nice but just not 1bil+ nice.


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-Al Gore
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You have under-slotted nearly all of your attacks. If your playing a brute I assume you want to kill things. With KO blow, foot stomp, and shield charge your only slotted attacks, your are going to be doing a lot of standing around waiting for stuff to recharge.


 

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aww lol ok ill work on it some more and repost it


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i was just really trying to get def soft capped


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Originally Posted by 4c3Player View Post
yeah S&l def capped is easy ,but i prefer aoe/melee/ranged bcuz for s& l ill be awsome but if i get hit with fire im screwed
This is incorrect, both in that fire/cold generally don't debuff defense, but also in that the grand majority of fire/cold attacks have a smash/lethal component, meaning it will check against your higher s/l defense.

For the few that don't, you'll have a ton of HP and probably around 30% f/c defense to work with; a small purp gets you near the softcap, and you probably will only need to do that a handful of times in your toon's career, unless for some reason you're hanging out in AE fire farms.

Psi is more of an issue, as a general rule, for invuln, but a good build will usually have 15-17% psi def, and 22-24% melee/ranged def. Again, a good base to layer a purple or two onto, possibly Darkest Night, and voila, problem solved.

If you're set on SS/shield, look back some ways in the forum, there's good starting points for you peppered about in other posts.


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Originally Posted by MajorTractor View Post
You have under-slotted nearly all of your attacks. If your playing a brute I assume you want to kill things. With KO blow, foot stomp, and shield charge your only slotted attacks, your are going to be doing a lot of standing around waiting for stuff to recharge.
well i have pretty good rech hay is at 2,899s (8) KO 9s (25) stomp 7s(20-perma) and my other attacks that are none slotted such as jab is at 0.86s (2) lol by the time the animation is done it will be recharged so i rlly wont be waiting around on my moves to rech


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