PvP Boot Camp Season 2

Wow! Thanks for the io Masque! All i was hopinng for was a build critique! (I have placed it in the PvP base incase anyone needs it!)

Where's mine?

There was a few people who wanted feedback on their pvp builds- I will be sending PMs back to each of you with my notes on your build. However, I wanted to break down each build here so maybe we can talk about things a little this week since we are not having an official meeting.

I'd like to share with you one of the top builds submitted in my opinion for the flying Crab- Not only did this person hit the important aspects of building a pvp character, he outlined a very solid strategy on how he would play this character as well.


----Flying Crab for duels-----

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The only things I would have changed was:

Switched the 3 devastation's for the 2nd set of 3 apocalypses.
I would have built in some KB protection:
drop that fly stealth for a BotZ KB.
Switched out that 4th Shield wall in Stealth for a Karma KB
Slotted web envelope with 5 grav anchors (you are over the cap for +1.875HP) So moved one slot to a def power and slotted a Karma KB.
Moved the 2nd slot in assault to a def power and slotted a karma KB.


This wont cover force bolt or power push, but it will cover most other KB powers. While it is true you just flip when flying, you can not attack while flipping so in duels this could be an issue.



-----Warshade Duels----

Thank goodness no one even touched this one, lol.

If I were to try to make a WS for duels I would probably make a PB- but if forced to make a WS:

Build for max hp
You will need to fight people toe to toe to use most of your better attacks/build up/heal type of powers so you need to take gravimetric snare and gravity well to get them immob/held. I would actually take the rez power because after you die and rez you are invulnerable for 15 secs but you can still attack your opponent- so that gives you a huge advantage to try to make up for a death.

---Defender flying trick arrow/xxx (duel and zone)----

There was a lot of people who submitted for this which I thought was great, the majority of people either took archery to avoid redraw or sonic for stacking debuffs.

My only comment about those secondaries is that they lack the range of psychic blast. The base range on archery and sonic is 80 while psychic is 100 ft.

I think everyone got the idea that you are going to be a flying sniper, you need to be beyond the range of your opponents attacks while you can still hit them with yours. Keeping them grounded is the way to go with entangling arrow.

I don't think anyone mentioned this but using hover avoids -fly types of powers like impale so those attacks will not drop you if you toggle on hover, however, entangling arrow will drop you in hover, so you as a flying/sniping/ta have a huge advantage over other flying characters because if they start to fly/hover towards you, you can still drop them with your entangling arrow. This is another reason you must build for as much +range as possible so glad javs (+7.5 range), Panaceas (+7.5 range), Jav volley (+7.5 range) and glad nets (+10 range) are important.

Someone submitted the following for a tactics on a ta/arch which I thought was very well thought out:

-----Blaster-Dual Pistols/Elec manipulation- build for zone play----


So the key things here was to think about zone play-

You have to be self sufficient- so if we start and the end- lets look at epics/ppp.

The better choices for Epics would be:

Cold- you get a self heal, a 'shield' that you can slot both karma and steadfasts in for kb protection and hibernate.

Flame- you get a self rez which leaves you invulnerable for a few seconds and also stuns whoever is close to you so you can pistol whip that stalker that just AS'd you. This is actually ok, but for zone play its different then in duels were the most kills count, in zone its pretty much just who got the first kill.

Force- PFF, temp invuln. Both very nice, you would need to work in aid self perhaps to make this a viable choice for zone play or make sure you know the quickest way back to the base to regen hp.

PPP:

Leviathan- offers KO blow- the hardest hitting attack for blasters, its easily proc'd. ---Bonus style points to anyone who holds a target with KO blow then finishes them off with executioner's shot. The only draw back to this attack is it is melee.

Mu- offers a nice little broken power in the form of electric shackles- its not just the fact that it is the 2nd most damaging attack for blasters (and its ranged) that makes it so broken but the fact that it does -100% recovery. So hitting your opponent with can significantly reduce his/her ability to fight back or escape with phase.


Looking at DP/Elec I think most of you got the idea that you would need to play both ranged and melee, melee for your secondary to do its best work- hard hitting punches and end drains while DP isn't *that* horrible from range.


Overall, I thought everyone did a great job of looking at these not typical PvP characters and coming up with some very viable builds for them. I think someone even told me they rolled a dp/elec for pvp and had leveled to the mid 40's (I have to admit I cringed).

Again, great job all.

If you cant open it, ill just post it here.

Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen

Its suppose to be a duelist build. So you can do anything goes, I'd plan for small maps- atlas/cargo/office/cage 1v1 normal rules.

Couldn't decide if starless step was worth keeping or not, so I ended up switching it up with Mire (which would unfortunately have limited usefulness unless fighting a MM or something)
Good stealth, good perception, 53 kb protection (with no acrobatics), good enough recov and regen, 1700 hp, self heals, phase, 3 good range attacks and 2 good melees (of which 1 will be especially useful). I think the only thing I'm not satisfied with would be movement speeds, but those are kind of hard to figure up with DR, so I just heavily stacked runspeeds over-cap hoping it would be roughly the right amount.

Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen

Do you have the Immob? It used to be super broken on Warshades, lasting well beyond two seconds. That and Starless Step might give you mini-sandboxing in some maps,

Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen

So I tried really hard to hate your build. The first time I looked at it I was like, 1492 hp.. dead!!! But you didn't have accolades toggled on which brought the WS HP up to a respectable 1706.

I tried to look for holes in the build, I mean seeing all those glad armors made me think you wasted slots to pick up that +2.5%hp, but after looking at multiple things (dropping mire and picking up shadow bolt) it just didn't pan out.

The only very minor things I might change- I would switch essense drain from 3 mako-1 heal- 1 nuc to a 5 set of paneceas, you get the same +hp but you also pick up range/recharge.

I would switch SS from 2 celerities to 2 micros and put a stealth io in sprint.

So anyway, nice job dude.



Also I tested gravimetric snare the duration is 2 seconds unenhanced in pvp now so it appears to have been fixed from what Kara was talking about. There is a nice dot that lasts a few seconds after that could be helpful in situtations but WSs are still bad for pvp.

Nice chairs! And that picture, is that a couple of apples? Looks like a hotel room. Red on Pink, who's the interior decorator? ...

We are having our first Team meeting Tue at 9pm est where we will pick a new name to get rid of masques sad sense of humor one.

I approve of this pic

im teh girl, karas teh elephant! XD

I'm not the one with "lemon chicken in mouf" all the time "Smallz" ies!

Epic pics from Masque are epic.
Thanks so much, it makes this more fun already!