Since the enforcer runs a toggle with it in it should;
1) Have a chance to Proc on you when you cast the power
2) Have a chance to Proc once every 10 seconds per enforcer on that specific enforcer.
Whether either of these happen would require testing.
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Good question.
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Simple questiuon,will the Gaussian's Chance for BU work for my Thug Enforcers when they are attacking or will it work for me actually casting the pets?
I'm thining it will only work when I cast the pets since the set if not designed for pets. Has anyone tested or can confirm whether or not it works? Thanks |
Ok, after transfering over to the Test server, I found that the Chance for Build Up only works on the activation of the Enforcers. It doesn't help the Enforcers at all.
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It is a shame, but thanks for doing the research and recording the results here for posterity.
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Ok, after transfering over to the Test server, I found that the Chance for Build Up only works on the activation of the Enforcers. It doesn't help the Enforcers at all.
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Even if it did, you probably didn't notice it. I have the io in Tactics and I don't even remember seeing it, and if I did it's one of those occasions where you don't quite remember if it really happened or was just a dream.
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Ok, after transfering over to the Test server, I found that the Chance for Build Up only works on the activation of the Enforcers. It doesn't help the Enforcers at all.
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Actully for the past 2 Issues, a buff Icon will display in your buff bar and you can also view the combat attributes window for the same thing. I sat there for an hour and never seen it trigger for the Enforcers.|
Originally Posted by icemanstryketh
Even if it did, you probably didn't notice it. I have the io in Tactics and I don't even remember seeing it, and if I did it's one of those occasions where you don't quite remember if it really happened or was just a dream.
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After that, I sat there for another 20 minutes casting the Enforcers and finally it triggered on Me after casting the Enforcers, so yeah, my previous post is correct. It doesn't work for the Enforcers, only the caster.
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Hey guys, you won't see it in your normal combat attributes window.
To see procs in pets at work, monitor:
"pet healing delivered"
Achilles, Lady Grey and Soulbound BU are confirmed.
(credit goes to Dante for this invaluable testing method)
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Originally Posted by Norty_Morty
Hey guys, you won't see it in your normal combat attributes window.
To see procs in pets at work, monitor: "pet healing delivered" Achilles, Lady Grey and BU are confirmed. (credit goes to Dante for this invaluable testing method) -Morty |
Do you have a link to his thread showing his results? Because I just logged back onto the Test server and made sure I watched the "pet healing delivered" in my combat tab and sat there for 40 minutes and never seen the Gaussian's Chance for BU proc fire off.
Unless I'm the unluckiest person in the game, it never showed anything.
Thanks
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Ok, I finally seen the stats showing that the Chance for BU does work. It seems it doesn't work while attacking the Test Dummies in the Vanguard Base though. BUt when attacking actual mobs, it finally worked. Thanks for the heads up
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Soulbound BU is WAY better than the Gaussians.
Gausians is basically a waste. 5% chance? naw.
Even Achilles is better. -res for more damage for ALL your pets.
This isn't on the boards anywhere, just from personal conversations with a friend that does a LOT of Masterminding.
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Originally Posted by Norty_Morty
Soulbound BU is WAY better than the Gaussians.
Gausians is basically a waste. 5% chance? naw. Even Achilles is better. -res for more damage for ALL your pets. This isn't on the boards anywhere, just from personal conversations with a friend that does a LOT of Masterminding. -Morty |
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Which Enforcer powers trigger the Achilles proc? Is it all of their attacks, or just some?
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Originally Posted by Norty_Morty
Soulbound BU is WAY better than the Gaussians.
Gausians is basically a waste. 5% chance? naw. Even Achilles is better. -res for more damage for ALL your pets. This isn't on the boards anywhere, just from personal conversations with a friend that does a LOT of Masterminding. -Morty |
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I'm pretty sure all "gun" attacks made by thugs has a -def effect.
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Which Enforcer powers trigger the Achilles proc? Is it all of their attacks, or just some?
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You should bug that, it seems like that's not how it should be working and there were other procs that didn't work correctly that have been fixed over the years once the subject was brought up to the right people.
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
I sat there for another 20 minutes casting the Enforcers and finally it triggered on Me after casting the Enforcers, so yeah, my previous post is correct. It doesn't work for the Enforcers, only the caster.
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The procs won't show up in your personal combat attributes window, but at least the Soulbound BU proc will appear in the affected pet's combat attribute window. I confirmed this through my Soulbound Proc testing almost a year ago.|
Originally Posted by Norty_Morty
Hey guys, you won't see it in your normal combat attributes window.
To see procs in pets at work, monitor: "pet healing delivered" Achilles, Lady Grey and Soulbound BU are confirmed. (credit goes to Dante for this invaluable testing method) -Morty |
I can't speak for the other procs, however (though, clearly, Lady Grey and Achilles' Heel won't show up in the pet's combat attributes...)
Well after doing lot of testing here is what I've come up with for my build on my Thugs / Dark
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Frankie the Hat: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(3), HO:Nucle(3), S'bndAl-Build%(15), ExStrk-Dam%(15)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(7), Nictus-Acc/Heal(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(33), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(5), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(5), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(34), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(34)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(9), SW-Def(37), SW-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(25), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(25)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Cyto(23), HO:Cyto(23), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GA-ResDam(17), GA-End/Res(17), GA-Res/Rech/End(50)
Level 18: Gang War -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(19), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(21), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(43), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(21), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(31), Abys-Fear/Rng(31), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-Def(36), SW-Def/EndRdx(37), SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 26: Call Bruiser -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(27), HO:Nucle(27), ExStrk-Dam%(36), SvgnRt-PetResDam(36), EdctM'r-PetDef(46)
Level 28: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(33)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Tough -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(39), GA-Res/Rech/End(39)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- HO:Lyso(A), HO:Lyso(39), HO:Endo(40), Theft-Heal/Rchg(40), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(48)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(42), GA-Res/Rech/End(42)
Level 44: Electrifying Fences -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(48), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Provoke -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Cardiac Core Boost
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(43)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(43)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 4% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 4% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 4% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 4% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 4% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 4% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 4% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 4% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 10% Defense
- 5.85% Max End
- 72.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 57% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(Heal)
- 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
- 78.31 HP (9.752%) HitPoints
- Knockback (Mag -9)
- Knockup (Mag -9)
- 18% (0.301 End/sec) Recovery
- 30% (1.006 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 24.89% Resistance(Smashing)
- 28.04% Resistance(Fire)
- 28.04% Resistance(Cold)
- 24.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 26.76% Resistance(Negative)
- 23% Resistance(Toxic)
- 23% Resistance(Psionic)
- 24.89% Resistance(Lethal)
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Did you watch for the proc icon, or just look at their damage bonus to see if it suddenly changes?
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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Actully for the past 2 Issues, a buff Icon will display in your buff bar and you can also view the combat attributes window for the same thing. I sat there for an hour and never seen it trigger for the Enforcers.
After that, I sat there for another 20 minutes casting the Enforcers and finally it triggered on Me after casting the Enforcers, so yeah, my previous post is correct. It doesn't work for the Enforcers, only the caster. |
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Both, but after further testing, it works fine. After zoning the buff icon as well as the pet's attribute windows shows the Chance for BU proc fire off.
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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
Did you watch for the proc icon, or just look at their damage bonus to see if it suddenly changes?
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Well after doing lot of testing here is what I've come up with for my build on my Thugs / Dark
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.92 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Frankie the Hat: Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Thugs Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Presence Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Call Thugs -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(3), HO:Nucle(3), S'bndAl-Build%(15), ExStrk-Dam%(15) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(7), Nictus-Acc/Heal(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(33), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7) Level 4: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(5), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(5), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(34), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(34) Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(9), SW-Def(37), SW-Def/EndRdx(40) Level 10: Howling Twilight -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(25), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(25) Level 12: Call Enforcer -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Cyto(23), HO:Cyto(23), Achilles-ResDeb%(46) Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GA-ResDam(17), GA-End/Res(17), GA-Res/Rech/End(50) Level 18: Gang War -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(19), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(21), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(43), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(45) Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(21), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(31), Abys-Fear/Rng(31), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(31) Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-Def(36), SW-Def/EndRdx(37), SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50) Level 26: Call Bruiser -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(27), HO:Nucle(27), ExStrk-Dam%(36), SvgnRt-PetResDam(36), EdctM'r-PetDef(46) Level 28: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(33) Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Tough -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(39), GA-Res/Rech/End(39) Level 38: Dark Servant -- HO:Lyso(A), HO:Lyso(39), HO:Endo(40), Theft-Heal/Rchg(40), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(48) Level 41: Charged Armor -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(42), GA-Res/Rech/End(42) Level 44: Electrifying Fences -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(48), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(50) Level 47: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A) Level 49: Provoke -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A) Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Invader Level 0: Marshal Level 50: Cardiac Core Boost ------------ Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(43) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(43) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ Set Bonus Totals:
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Originally Posted by Norty_Morty
Soulbound BU is WAY better than the Gaussians.
Gausians is basically a waste. 5% chance? naw. Even Achilles is better. -res for more damage for ALL your pets. This isn't on the boards anywhere, just from personal conversations with a friend that does a LOT of Masterminding. -Morty |
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Originally Posted by icemanstryketh
Curious, wouldn't you net more Endurance with a Performance shifter proc in stamina?
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Most likely yes, but it's more of a preference I guess. The only thing I do is use debuffs which doesn't cost me too much, and a few taunts here and there, but that's it.
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Simple questiuon,will the Gaussian's Chance for BU work for my Thug Enforcers when they are attacking or will it work for me actually casting the pets?
I'm thining it will only work when I cast the pets since the set if not designed for pets.
Has anyone tested or can confirm whether or not it works?
Thanks
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