I can't target Freaks during their rez animations...
By
AmazingMOO,
Posted on: 2011-02-26 02:40 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Honestly, I'm more annoyed by the inability to target Freaks while rezzing that they added in than I am by everything else's ability to target me while I'm rezzing.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
And apparently, pets can target them before you can.
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Probably related to the way they can target and kill enemies that phase out, like Tsoo Ancestor Spirits.
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Originally Posted by passerby
And apparently, pets can target them before you can.
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Tsoo Ancestor Spirits don't phase out, they stealth, or go invisible. If you have a + perception power (or use a yellow inspiration), you'll notice the difference.|
Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
Probably related to the way they can target and kill enemies that phase out, like Tsoo Ancestor Spirits.
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Your pets won't defeat enemies like Illusionists and Master Illusionists that actually phase out.
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Yup, pets have always been quicker to target enemies. Setting my MM's pets on Agressive during a Rikti invasion they'll start firing while the Rikti are still porting in and untargetable by players (unless you target through the pets.)|
Originally Posted by passerby
And apparently, pets can target them before you can.
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Of course during an invasion event any self respecting MM should by too busy doing /e dance to bother targetting anything. Why keep a dog and bark yourself?
I don't recall anyone targeting me during Rise of the Phoenix. They're too busy being knocked back.
The worse part is you now can't target ALLIES during the rez animation either. So popping shields, mez-resist or healing on them is like dancing on a knife edge.
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If I am playing one of my Stormers, I will watch a defeated teammate and hit them with 02 when they start to rez (assuming I do not have a Rez power I can use on them myself) so that they are unstunned immediately and get a little more green bar. |
Originally Posted by Tyger
The worse part is you now can't target ALLIES during the rez animation either. So popping shields, mez-resist or healing on them is like dancing on a knife edge.
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...except that lately, they are mowed down in a hail of gunfire before I can even target them. Well, it's the thought that counts, right?
And when I pop my OWN rez inspiration, I CANNOT POP A BREAKFREE UNTIL ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED. No Breakfree, no Green, no Blue AND as a bonus, stagger around and get the Instant Swiss Cheese Treatment. So Goodbye to Emergency Combat Rez when there are baddies around.
This whole business is like the Maze in Perez Park. Perhaps the dev that came up with it thought it added an exciting dimension to gameplay, but it is just an annoying pain in the posterior.
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"The Most High has spoken, even with His own blood," Melancton replied. "Surely we know."
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There are at least two ways to damage rezzing freaks.|
Originally Posted by passerby
And apparently, pets can target them before you can.
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The first is to target a pet that's attacking them. You can attack through the pet (at least with ranged attacks; I haven't tried it with melee attacks).
The second is to use AoE attacks. If you've got a PBAoE it's easy -- just use it. If you've got a targeted AoE it's a little harder: you have to target something near the rezzing freak and hope to hit the rezzer with the splash. If you're using something like Shockwave that'll require you to move around to hit both targets.
These are probably exploits, which the devs should fix in the future.
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Most powerset rez powers do render you completly invunerable for a short time, which is considerably better than the freaks get.
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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO
So why can anyone and their brother put bullets into me during my rez animation?
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I really should do something about this signature.
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I have much better luck with RoTP on my blaster than I do with Revive on my regen scrapper.|
Originally Posted by Scooby_Dont
I don't recall anyone targeting me during Rise of the Phoenix. They're too busy being knocked back.
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Inspirations I never bother to even carry (solo).
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You can also affect them with AoEs, so if you can either fire something that doesn't need a target or targets a foe near them, you can still damage them.
This has been this way for a bit now. I want to say they added it around I17, but I'm too lazy to confirm in the patch notes.
Oh, as an aside, the new vet reward rez works excellently in comparison to something like Revive. It gives you moment of untouchable status, plus the "ding"-style inspiration combo, which makes sure you don't get mezzed and are fairly hard to hit. I've used it to rez a melee character in a partial pile of +3 Malta with it and defeated the rest of them without popping my toggles.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Wait. Weren't we supposed to be invulnerable for # of secs after using a rez? Was this feature removed?
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It depends very much on what source you got the rez from. Not all of them do that.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I didn't take Revive on my regen stalker. But now with inherent Fitness, I might. OTOH I took RotP before Char. At first I was all, "A power that you take in case you face-plant? Doesn't sound very positive to me." Now I'm all, "You think you won, evil doers! Take THAT!" And the flaming birdie is awesome. 
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
You can also affect them with AoEs, so if you can either fire something that doesn't need a target or targets a foe near them, you can still damage them.
This has been this way for a bit now. I want to say they added it around I17, but I'm too lazy to confirm in the patch notes. Oh, as an aside, the new vet reward rez works excellently in comparison to something like Revive. It gives you moment of untouchable status, plus the "ding"-style inspiration combo, which makes sure you don't get mezzed and are fairly hard to hit. I've used it to rez a melee character in a partial pile of +3 Malta with it and defeated the rest of them without popping my toggles. |
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So why can anyone and their brother put bullets into me during my rez animation?
This is especially obnoxious when you have the inspirations to pull off a full recovery-- rez, breakfree, purples, blues... but the enemies around you have defeated you again before your UI is responsive again, because it DOES wait for your rez animations to finish before allowing you to use it.