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I agree completely with this statement. *nod nod nod*
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Originally Posted by Janlee
I have found that I enjoy the game more not knowing what is coming.
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Originally Posted by Janlee
I am not going to be going back to the test server, and unless someone really drags me back I will no longer be doing any "beta".
I have found that I enjoy the game more not knowing what is coming. |
I dislike beta because it feels like a waste of time. Nothing you get or do there has any effect on the "real" game, so other than popping in there (and wasting time you could spend doing other things by having to update for the patch) and testing huge/obvious changes, I see no reason to stay more than 5 minutes.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
I share your sentiment, but for a different reason.
I dislike beta because it feels like a waste of time. Nothing you get or do there has any effect on the "real" game, so other than popping in there (and wasting time you could spend doing other things by having to update for the patch) and testing huge/obvious changes, I see no reason to stay more than 5 minutes. |
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Now that I do get invited to them again (I have an inkling suspicion I had been placed on a Do-Not-Invite list following some rather hostile comments in regards to the Fury concept proposed by tankers being handed over to Brutes, way back in CoV beta), I've also found I don't participate as much as I could.
I've also dropped the idea that my feedback would affect anything since I'm not a recognized number cruncher.
Add to that my limited playtime, and I'd rather concentrate on what I still have on my plate instead of looking ahead to the dessert helpings.
Heck, I still haven't done most SFs (none of the MO ones either) and mayhem missions, and haven't even started familiarizing myself with Apex / Tin Mage.
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Well my first time I got invited into a "Closed Beta" was when they rolled out the "Inventions" system. Since then I have been invited to most if not all of them. Like Jan, I find that from the "Closed Beta" to "Live" I've suffered burn out on the content. I still appreciate the invites, but feel that for the enjoyment of the game I should limit my exposure to what they wish us to test.
Now if this Beta Trial of a thing called "Life" could just get over with. There have been no significant updates in a long time and it is gravely unbalanced.
The problem with this thinking is that beta is NOT for the "ooh cool" factor of seeing the new stuff.
It's for testing it out and DELIBERATELY trying to "break" it. In some cases, aesthetic commentary (look and feel, gameplay, *fun*, etc) is welcomed as well, but what they're really trying to do is have users beat on the content and see what goes *boom* or if any obvious exploits pop up.
If you're going into beta just to see the new stuff, then you really shouldn't be going into beta.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
It's for testing it out and DELIBERATELY trying to "break" it.
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As a tech, I understand the premise of beta, and threw myself fully into the ones I got invited to.
And that was the thing. Trying to "break" the game, when I went back "live" I carried that over in some instances.
So, now I play for enjoyment: I read the dialogs without worrying about grammar or spelling, I use the powers without trying to "break" them.
But, while I am on "live" I do notice some things, and when I find them I report them.
Sometimes, I impress my boss. Sometimes, I impress myself. The rest of the time, I scare people. I can live with that.
the few times ive been in betas, the only time i got on the test or beta server was because i was kinda bored and had nothing left to do with the regular content, so a small preview kind of thing on what lies down the road so i can plan my toons on live to go with the future changes if they are significant enough
i usually dont do the betas too much because since it is a beta, there are plenty of things that may or may not go live, and seeing some things that were pretty neat but end up not going live is kind of disapointing
if i am in a beta, i usually keep track of the stuff happening on the closed beta forums so im not totally in the dark about what will happen, but i wont have actually experienced anything so its not dull but still something new and fun
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
I share your sentiment, but for a different reason.
I dislike beta because it feels like a waste of time. Nothing you get or do there has any effect on the "real" game, so other than popping in there (and wasting time you could spend doing other things by having to update for the patch) and testing huge/obvious changes, I see no reason to stay more than 5 minutes. |
I am pleased and honored to be chosen, but I don't want to spend my play time doing Beta when I could spend my play time doing something that will have more of a long term benefit--laying my toons on the live server.
Thank you to everyone who actively participates in betas. I appreciatchya
I stopped going into Beta because I got tired of the attitude I ran across in there. You get invited in, you come across something you think isn't working right, mention it, and get harped on by the people who have been there going "Yeah, we already saw that, noob!" as if pointing out an ongoing problem was somehow wrong.
And I would say that the point of inviting the average players into the Beta isn't to have them break the game or the new systems. I think when that's happening, they're trying to find out if the new content is working properly.
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I can relate and agree I, tested the AE or MA back when that was coming out, same with i18 and i19 and have had trouble and lack of fun in the past. I didn't mind beta testing i18 I think I have been on most all the beta tests for everything after Mission Architect. But not always had the best experiences. I did get caught up in testing two different issues but I liked what was coming out of them.
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Originally Posted by Janlee
I have been in game for the (soon) last 7 years.
I was in CoV beta. I was in "Macintosh" beta. For the first 2 years of game, I did not even go to the "test server". With the exception of Manticore and Sister Psyche's wedding, I have really not enjoyed "beta". So. I am not going to be going back to the test server, and unless someone really drags me back I will no longer be doing any "beta". I have found that I enjoy the game more not knowing what is coming. |
I love to beta. My only problem is I don't know the game mechanics well enough (which is a deliberate choice - I'm here to play a game) to make useful comments on the game. I can offer "I like this, I don't like" or.. "OOOoooh! That was PRETTY!" type of feedback, but not the number crunching mechanical type of feedback.
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That is still good feedback. When the Incarnate system first hit in Beta, the players hated it. So it was scapped and thus an issue late. I think even if you don't have a tricked out PC they still want you in Beta to test things on a non optimual level. And player perspective is alway good, and is important feedback to give. Like I've said by the time an Issue has gone from closed beta to open beta, to live I've gotten burned out on it. I think the only exception was with the intro to Cimerora. I just love me my Romans.
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Originally Posted by Sooner
I love to beta. My only problem is I don't know the game mechanics well enough (which is a deliberate choice - I'm here to play a game) to make useful comments on the game. I can offer "I like this, I don't like" or.. "OOOoooh! That was PRETTY!" type of feedback, but not the number crunching mechanical type of feedback.
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I feel the Beta has a very big impact "on the real game", that's one of the reasons for being in there. To look for things that are broken, things that are inconsistent, you know... bugs. So that they don't make it into the live version.|
Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
I share your sentiment, but for a different reason.
I dislike beta because it feels like a waste of time. Nothing you get or do there has any effect on the "real" game, so other than popping in there (and wasting time you could spend doing other things by having to update for the patch) and testing huge/obvious changes, I see no reason to stay more than 5 minutes. |
The whole purpose of crash-testing cars it to see what happens to them in a crash, and then work out the design defects to make it safer for those in the vehicle.
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True, but it doesn't have an effect on MY real game. No toons I create can come to live. No rewards I earn can be brought to live. It's kind of a dead end black hole as far as my personal 'real game' goes.|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
I feel the Beta has a very big impact "on the real game", that's one of the reasons for being in there. To look for things that are broken, things that are inconsistent, you know... bugs. So that they don't make it into the live version.
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I am glad people want to do it and thankful that they do. But, to me, the experience is work w/o pay.
I was in that early open/closed beta for dual pistols. I tried some balance things, did some tests, took some notes, made some short comments, made some longer, number-detailed ones, and learned some things. But in the end, I don't think I made a difference, even if some of the things I commented on were eventually addressed.
I am a number cruncher, and I don't mind mulling over system mechanics (I occasionally do so on my own projects), but I don't lose sleep over not being in a beta. There's so many people doing that stuff anyway (most of the time), my voice doesn't seem to matter.
The last time I beta'ed anything was the Kahn task force which at that time had a CoT AV instead of the Malta AV. I liked it better with the CoT, made more sense. Wish they would randomly have different AV's in that tf. After that I have from time to time downloaded the updates for test. The new stuff out now made me want to download it again but I can wait for the official release and learn on the fly.
I have been in game for the (soon) last 7 years.
I was in CoV beta.
I was in "Macintosh" beta.
For the first 2 years of game, I did not even go to the "test server".
With the exception of Manticore and Sister Psyche's wedding, I have really not enjoyed "beta".
So.
I am not going to be going back to the test server, and unless someone really drags me back I will no longer be doing any "beta".
I have found that I enjoy the game more not knowing what is coming.
Sometimes, I impress my boss. Sometimes, I impress myself. The rest of the time, I scare people. I can live with that.