PUGs/STF/Strike Pack/Power Leveling (rant)

Last night I formed up a STF for the Strike Pack. This was about my 20th for the week, but I forgot to do it on my main (Rad/Ice Fender). So I thought at first I had a good team. 1 Blasters, 2 Controllers, 2 Defenders, 2 Scrappers, 1 Brute.

We plowed through Arbiter Sands, the first 4 AVs, the Tree, and the next 4 AVs. All was going so smooth. As we get to Aeon, the whole final level of the map was aggro’d to Aeon, which was not too bad since one troller was a Kin, there was FS to go around.
We get to the final 4, Ghost Widow solo pulled, dropped in 39 seconds, then Scir, African American Scorpion (Black is racist), and then Capt Crunch. The Flier goes down, now onto LR and the Towers.

This is where crap meets crap. I should always check player powers before I start a TF. The Brute did not have taunt, at all, so his/her way to pull LR was to attack. No too bad right? Well the Brute was also WP. Missing from WP, Rise to the Challenge, so no Taunt Aura. So what took us 31 minutes to get from start to LR, now took 1 hour and 12 minutes to just finish the towers and LR, because the brute lost aggro and the team would get wiped. Then the Flier would respawn and take us down. So it took us 20 minutes per tower plus 5 fliers.

So after we finish I look at the powers of those on the team. 3 members of the team had a total of 50 badges, and no set bonuses, so I asked what is up. They just got their toons PL’d, and wanted to run the TF before the week was over.

The broote, no taunt, no RTTC, I don’t know if this is common practice for Brutes, I did not play Vills a lot, but this just does not seem right, to act as the fighting meat shield to replace a tank.

Sorry about my rant, but a 1 hour TF lasting 2 hours was ridiculous, and it was my fault.

brutes not having taunt would be a problem for that, however i know some brutes may or not take taunt because they build their toons like scrappers

although he didnt sound very good to begin with because he was missing RTTC, which is an extremely good power

i think it sounds like you just had bad luck with that run, LRSF/STF are some of the more tough tf/sf in the game, recluse being buffed like he is, is even hard for a fully IOd tank to handle without inspirations or outside help

just remember to check before you start to at least have a tank/brute who knows how to tank recluse and the run should be pretty smooth

Thanks Necro. I normally have no problems running it. When I run it on my blaster, as a matter of fact, my first run ever last Monday, we went through it in 47 minutes, which I was happy about.

I just have to make sure I look before I leap from now on.

i think you were still amazingly lucky to finish and that you did persevere where many poeple would have given up

you got really really lucky on solo pulling the patrons, that feat in and of itself is very hard to do, and with not taunt or taunt aura on the brute, very likely that if more than 1 came would have team wiped

the main things you want to have on LRSF/STF is good debuff and a good tank, -regen is your best friend when it comes to dealing with AVs, as well as high def

Yeah I was on my Rad/Ice Fender, and I had the Kin spam Trans the whole time. We had an Emp that was on the tank like white on rice. But when it came to LR, the Emp thought she had to be in the Brute's back pocket and would get killed, thus the Brute would die, and team wipe would start.

There were about 4 times when I had to team TP everyone away, explain the rules over and over and ask please to listen.

I almost called it but I held off.

Umm ... you should be happy you finished. And just as importantly the members of your TF were willing to stick it out and fight to the end.

I can't tell you how many stuck up types there are, with their nose in the air about how a good team "should" run. And if you run into a wipe or two on the tough parts ... they up and just quit the team. Why ? Because they didnt immediately win. They'll blame the team.

What's sad is you can finish this TF even with a weak team. Just takes some slightly different strategy which you need to adjust as things arise. But some peeps are just spoiled and quit because it wasnt perfect. Those people piss me off.

One run I did this week our buff / debuff / heal came in the form of 2 kin controllers. Our tank was a "fire" brute. That was it. Twas a bit rough till we figured out how to handle things. It ended up being a 1:40 TF but we did finish it and everyone felt good we pulled it off.

On the flip side I did one where we blew right through everything and when we got to recluse we had our first wipe. 2 of the guys decided they are about to quit "because we didnt have it together". One f'ing wipe. And we easily had the resources to pull it off. Had to literally beg them to stay. And then we did it easily the next try at him.

You just want to pop those spoiled snots right in the face

Heh.

Weakest team I was on, still held together and finished.
Sure, the tank was a fire tank. Sure he had no resists other than ninety to fire.

But, with two emps (I was one) and a rad healing him, it only took about forty minutes to finish LR (thirty-four ish to take care of two red towers, a yellow, and the green, but, hey. Six on LR).

Love the heart they had, though!