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I do, and am IOing him for +recharge as well as slotting Siphon Life as a heal. Somewhat unconventional, but experience with high-end content has shown me the value of a spammable self-heal while tanking overlevel opposition.|
Originally Posted by Lobster
Does anyone have an ice/DM tank? That seems like it would be pretty sweet...
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I'm still taking a bunch of +Def pool powers in order to have a high base to work with, and plan to add the PvP +3 Def unique as well. I may slot what few res powers I have with Impervium Armor to 3 slots (incl the +3 Psi Res IO) for some Psi +def to stack with the pool +def, although I'll have to see how the build plays out as it's still in flux at the moment.
Siphon Life is the reason I went with DM over the other sets, as I've leveled other Defense-based sets to 50 without a heal and really wished I'd had one when bosses or higher mananged to break through my 'shell'.
That's not to say Ice Armor needs such a backup plan, but the way I build I would rather have and not need than need and not have, especially as I tend to IO for extreme tanking so that if the team is light on support it's not a problem.
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Since I took Shovel (Battle Axe) for theme reasons, I went with Aid Self. MOST of the time it works a treat. When I am being just hammered I can't get it to go off, but an AOE knockdown and I can usually get that beautiful green number up in time (if not, I can always hibernate, heh).
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Originally Posted by General_Masters
[...]That's not to say Ice Armor needs such a backup plan, but the way I build I would rather have and not need than need and not have, especially as I tend to IO for extreme tanking so that if the team is light on support it's not a problem.
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@VforVegan
The Nauseum (50) Kin/Rad/Psy Defender
Terror Storm (50) Ill/Storm/Ice Controller
Burn Bunny (50) Fire/Kin/Fire Controller
Michael Ebonheart (50) Warshade
Incredible Ism (50) Ill/Emp/Primal Controller
((and too many non-50s to list here...))
As the aggro king, does Ice need Taunt or can it rely on it's two auras?
Current:
Fridgerato - Traps/Ice (Frdm)
Gadgetron - Grav/TA (Lbrty)
Ice/Kin Guide
I went without it, but i kind of regret doing so. It can hold aggro pretty well, but sometimes when i activate hibernate my target leaves me and goes for my teammates.
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Taunt is still great IMO. The two taunt auras will let you easily take aggro from those SD scrappers, but that's about it in terms of threat generation. I use taunt to get mobs off of softies, pull AV's, and to keep ranged mobs on me without moving. The taunt auras don't let you do that.
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Originally Posted by AWRocketman
As the aggro king, does Ice need Taunt or can it rely on it's two auras?
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Mains (Freedom) @Auroxis
Auroxis - Emp/Rad/Power Defender Pylon Video Soloing an AV
Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster
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1. With IOs and the fighting pool it's decent and different from my Invulnerability tank (who's also got IOs and the fighting pool), and while both seem sturdy - the Invulnerabilty one "feels" sturdier BUT I enjoy tanking with my Ice Tank more.|
Originally Posted by Redd35
Hi there, few questions.
How is the survivability of Ice? Does it take a large effort to reach the softcap? Does it have any synergy with Kinetic Melee? |
2. I'm not sure what one considers a large effort but 3 sets of Smashing Haymakers, Taunt slotted with either 4 Mocking or 6 Zingers, Steadfast IO in Permafrost, Combat Jumping and Fighting Pool (for Weave) and I'm at 50% S/L (or slightly over).
3. I've only played (to a high degree or to 50) SS and Fire. I cant imagine that Ice would be bad with any primary.
@Deadboy
Related to the topic, but a little off. Does Energy Absorbtion stack?
Current:
Fridgerato - Traps/Ice (Frdm)
Gadgetron - Grav/TA (Lbrty)
Ice/Kin Guide
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Energy absorption gets a certain amount of defense for each enemy and a bonus amount for the 1st. The per enemy amount stacks between applications, but the 1st enemy bonus does not.
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Originally Posted by AWRocketman
Related to the topic, but a little off. Does Energy Absorbtion stack?
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I got my ice/mace tank to 50 this week. Just now I did an ITF. I am not fully IOed yet, have no purple enhancements, and didn't slot my alpha until right before I logged off, and I rocked it. I essentially soloed the 1st 2 missions. It was a long road to 50 for this tank, but I was very pleased with how it came up (and certainly will get better with IOs etc). I focused on getting enough recharge for EA to be up often and that made all the difference, both in end and defense. I didn't die the entire TF and I didn't have my health below around 75-80% throughout. I thought I would rely more on hibernate (my lvl 49 choice), but I didn't use it.
Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers
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Someones tanky could drop first for simply being the better aggro magnet. Many a reason.
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Originally Posted by Icesphere
ITFs were made for Ice tanks. You have the roman soldiers that do smashing damage, that we can soft cap with ease. And the dark ones do negative energy, which glacier armor absorbs most of it. Hell, I ran an ITF with a stone tank and we made a bet to see who can faceplant the least and I won! I would say its cause he is a bad stone tank, but their shouldnt be an excuse with granite armor on.
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He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
The Ice tank in question was like 2 bubbles off 42, so I decided to wait till he dinged to do it. Sorted it all out last night juuuust before the server went down for the patch, heh. Madly buying SOs, etc while the red text glared at me. Probably only finished with a minute or two to spare.
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