Alpha slot.....


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Hi.....I have a lvl 50 Brute that I switched over to the hero side before the alpha slot was officially unlocked.....I was told by a GM that I had to get the mission from the side that the toon was originally created on.....if thats the case what the hell is the point of the whole tip system (starting at lvl 20) and switching over??? If what I was told by the GM is indeed the case why bother switching until I get to level 50 and obtaining the alpha slot and then switch over.....

I have been advised by very reliable players that what I was told by the GM in question is not the case......


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That GM was incorrect. My Scrapper was made into a villain back in October; he's now a rogue. When i19 went live I got my Alpha slot unlocked in the redside Ouroborous.


 

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Since you ARE level 50, just go to Ouroborous and talk to Mender Ramiel. If he gives you the mission, then clearly the GM was mistaken.


 

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I did and all i get is his "grocery list"



besides heres something to ponder.....what about Praetorians? where do they fall in all of this?


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besides heres something to ponder.....what about Praetorians? where do they fall in all of this?
Praetorians have to pick Hero or Villain at 20, and that then counts as their original alignment.


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I don't know what's causing your problem, but the GM was wrong. I'd switched my blaster to redside before the Alpha slot unlocked, and I had no problem getting the mission from Ramiel.

Just a possibility -- you don't have too many story arcs open, do you? Rather annoyingly, arcs from your old alignment count against the total even though there's no way to access them and clear them without changing back.


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Originally Posted by Grouchybeast View Post
I don't know what's causing your problem, but the GM was wrong. I'd switched my blaster to redside before the Alpha slot unlocked, and I had no problem getting the mission from Ramiel.

Just a possibility -- you don't have too many story arcs open, do you? Rather annoyingly, arcs from your old alignment count against the total even though there's no way to access them and clear them without changing back.
nope....i have no arcs open.....


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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny View Post
nope....i have no arcs open.....
Did you have any arcs open before switching sides? They don't show up in your list, but count against you for doing the Alpha Unlock arc.


 

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Another possibilty - You hadn't started the arc redside had you - or even completed it?


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nope....I hadnt started it.....I believe I switched my toon over before the incarnate system officially went live.


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ok what I will eventually do is switch my brute back and make sure there are no open arcs that hadnt been completed.........let the tedious task begin!


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Originally Posted by Gaia View Post
Another possibilty - You hadn't started the arc redside had you - or even completed it?
THIS is what happened to me. A matter of hours before my Brute got to full Hero I started the arc. Did Future Memory and talked to States. When my public notoriety (whatever) started dropping off I made the push for my last 5 tips and Morality mission.

Went back to Oro and now I have the Trapdoor mission, Ramiel says he's working on it, and the crystal won't let me in.

"Escalated" Customer "Service" says that the only way for me to continue is to go back to Villain, finish the arc, then come BACK to hero. 8 days of wasted time. They say they have no ability to affect this in any way. What they mean is that they want me to waste 8 days.

I admit that if I had THOUGHT about it I MIGHT have reasoned that something like this might have happened, but the game gave me NO indication that I was doing something incredibly stupid (maybe the generic dialogue where you accept the alignment change...). Would be nice if the game would check for those kinds of conflicts and give a more "useful" prompt. Kinda like the pervasive griping it does when you try to delete salvage that you can use. So annoying that it won't stay turned off, so (almost) meaningless, but it DOES make you look at it once more and confirm the action. :/


 

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Okay, I can confirm what was written from the Hero side. What I think i did, was, did mener ramiel, but before completing it, I went to villian, then I went to run a WSF, and I couldnt because I wasnt alpha slotted. but when I went to Ramiel to get slotted, he wouldnt give me a mission. so, what I suspect happened is somehow, when they do a mission wipe as you change your alignment, something isnt getting wiped.
However, there is now no way I can run the next WSF with this character as a villian, as it will take me at least 8 days to get to that point.

I cant run any of the WSFs as a villian until I:
a. do 5 villian to rogue missions
b. do 5 villian to rogue missions
c. do alignment mission
d. do 5 rogue to hero missions
e. do 5 rogue to hero missions
f. do alignment mission.
g. complete mender ramiel's mission on hero's side
h. do 5 hero to vigilante missions
i. do 5 hero to vigilante missions
j. do alignment mish
k. do 5 vigilante to villan missions
l. do 5 vigilante to villian missions
m. do alignment mish

or,

when you change alignments, all missions are reset.
do mender ramiels arc

WAIT, that's how the UI is SUPPOSED to work!

My apologies, I was being flippant, and humor doesnt translate well in forums
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Note: I cannot guarantee that I have the Going Rogue expansion, because it doesnt list it under the account updates. However, I can create Praetorians, so I am going to assume that I do. If I dont have Going Rogue, then I would think that it would not work for other toons as well. Not the case. I have two toons that have slotted their alphas with no problem. if they can, then whats special about this toon? Only that this toon has switched alignments.


 

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What I think i did, was, did mener ramiel, but before completing it, I went to villian,
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Note: I cannot guarantee that I have the Going Rogue expansion, because it doesnt list it under the account updates.
If you were able to change alignment, then you have Going Rogue.


Your problem seems to be that you had Mender Ramiel's arc OPEN, and then you changed alignments. Since you've already started the arc, you can't get the redside version. And since you're currently not a hero (or Vigilante), you can't complete Ramiel's arc without going back around the alignment wheel.

By the way, it will only take you 6 days to get to where you can do a redside WST. Working from your listing:

a. do 5 villian to rogue missions
b. do 5 villian to rogue missions
c. do alignment mission
d. do 5 rogue to hero missions
e. do 5 rogue to hero missions
f. do alignment mission.
g. complete mender ramiel's mission on hero's side
h. do 5 hero to vigilante missions
i. do 5 hero to vigilante missions
j. do alignment mish
<<< STOP HERE >>> A Vigilante can both participate in and START strike forces.
k. do 5 vigilante to villan missions
l. do 5 vigilante to villian missions
m. do alignment mish


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