good well oiled LRSF team can run it in 45 min, cuda takes around 1.5 hours minimum
answer to number 2 would be yes, defenders also can get the black scorpion temp, if you have neither mm or defender, its very unlikely you will beat reichsman unless you have a LOT of debuff and dmg
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The minimums are closer to 22 for LRSF and 38 for barracuda. For an average team though, they are both longer, with the barracuda probably still longer. For a poor/uncoordinated/uncooperative team, the LRSF is probably longer (counting failure to complete as being longer).
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
good well oiled LRSF team can run it in 45 min, cuda takes around 1.5 hours minimum
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It can be. If you have a very high damage team, it's possible to whittle him down between him phasing, but for most teams, it'll likely end up being impossible. Even if you can, it's not fun, though. Well, Barracuda's never fun. But beating Reichs without the temp powers is even less fun.
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Originally Posted by Ten__
(Oh, and can the Barracuda SF even be done without a mastermind character, so no player could get Black Scorpion's temporary power which stops Reichsman's dimensional phasing protection?)
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The LRSF rewards 25 merits; the Barracuda SF rewards 20. This means the average team takes about 25% longer to run the LRSF.
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Originally Posted by Ten__
just a quick question: Assuming an average level 50 team not especially geared for the particular strike force, which SF usually takes longer to run, the Lord Recluse SF, or the Barracuda SF?
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Iirc, Dev's don't use the average times for merit calculations. They use a related but different concept. Also I don't think that the SFs have been recalibrated recently.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
The LRSF rewards 25 merits; the Barracuda SF rewards 20. This means the average team takes about 25% longer to run the LRSF.
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Originally Posted by all_hell
Iirc, Dev's don't use the average times for merit calculations. They use a related but different concept. Also I don't think that the SFs have been recalibrated recently.
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"Task Forces give an average of 1 merit every 3 minutes of average time (20 merits an hour), Trials give an average of 1 merit every 2.5 minutes (24 merits an hour), and Story Arcs give an average of 1 merit every 7.5 minutes (8 merits an hour). "
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I think, devs simply flipped reward values for Kahn and Barracuda by mistake. It used to be 20 for Kahn and 30 for Barracuda. Now is just opposite. IIRC, it happened right after i18 release.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
The LRSF rewards 25 merits; the Barracuda SF rewards 20. This means the average team takes about 25% longer to run the LRSF.
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Originally Posted by NordBlast
I think, devs simply flipped reward values for Kahn and Barracuda by mistake. It used to be 20 for Kahn and 30 for Barracuda. Now is just opposite. IIRC, it happened right after i18 release.
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Edit: Although being that I favor villains, I should enter my biased opinion. The BSF is harder because the Devs know villains can handle it
Hi,
just a quick question: Assuming an average level 50 team not especially geared for the particular strike force, which SF usually takes longer to run, the Lord Recluse SF, or the Barracuda SF?
(Oh, and can the Barracuda SF even be done without a mastermind character, so no player could get Black Scorpion's temporary power which stops Reichsman's dimensional phasing protection?)
Thanks,
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