First impressions of the "gray" alignments

Heroes and Villains get A-merits because they can't freely side-switch.
Vigilantes and Rogue can freely side-switch so they don't get the benefit of A-merits.

I'm not complaining at all. I'm just pointing out that you people seem to want to break the game balance the system has established just because you think everyone's entitled to A-merits.

If anyone's whining and "complaining" here it's people like you, not me.

Wow, you're really being willfully obtuse, aren't you?

There is no balance. The devs might have intended for there to be balance with only giving Heroes and Villains access to A-Merits, but those same A-Merits have so much more purchasing power over normal Reward Merits that it causes an imbalance in favor of the older alignments.

Get it?

Yeah, there's a pretty broad spectrum between "Everyone wants one, no one wants the other" and "Perfect harmony among all things".

I'm just asking for a nudge towards the latter. Saying that you can't have everything at the "Harmony" end is a pretty poor to reason ignore things sitting closer to the "Lopsided" side of the spectrum.

No idea where your "have it all" remark came from since I didn't ask for them to all "have it all" (the A-Merit idea was someone else's) but rather have something more equivalent in desire from the player base.

I get that A-merits were added to the game during the I18 beta because people were complaining that the ADVANTAGE of being able to side-switch made rogues and vigilantes way too unbalanced compared to heroes and villains.

Now that we have a system in place to counter the advantage of side-switching people like you are whining that the "fix" broke things. Seems the Devs are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I'm willing to accept you see more of a "problem" with the current state of alignment balance in this game than I do. I think that stems from differing perceptions of just how important the ability to freely side-switch can be, especially considering the future of the upcoming WSTs what-not.

I guess if you care little or nothing for side-switching then the "counterweight" of A-merits may seem too heavy. Fortunately for myself I tend to see what the Devs did here in a more favorable light. YMMV.

LOL.. I love it when people say "whine" on forums. It's like saying "I have no good argument but maybe I can shame you into silence instead".

Seems like the Devs went too far in one direction in trying to correct the problem. Which is, again, a pretty poor excuse to refuse to find a balance.

"Hey, I said the color white you used was too bright and now you painted the room black!"
"Golly, I'm just damned if I do and damned if I don't, huh?"

Really, just... no. You might think you're coming off as witty, but it's more like stupidly sarcastic. Please stop acting like such a donkey.

Whether it was imbalanced in another way is completely beside the point (as well, I never participated in the beta, so why should I even care about it now?). Their solution to the problem was simply too much, and caused an imbalance in the other direction. We're talking about this current imbalance, OK? Just so you understand that. Not the old imbalance; please try to forget about that one as it doesn't exist anymore. The new imbalance created by A-Merits. There's no "damning" here, they just need to do something about it.

Yeah, the broad perception shown in the population numbers that you say you don't care about because you're already happy.

Gotcha

Why are we wasting our fingers typing to this person?

I really must get over my 'someone is WRONG on the Internet' syndrome. LOL.

I'm guessing you'd only be happy here if the population of alignments in this game was equally distributed 25% each compared to the playerbase. Is that a fair guess?

I contend it's NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE for the Devs to make the numbers equal like that. Who actually cares if all options in this game are equally liked by the entire playerbase? Would that actually make the game better, or just make it 100% cookie-cutter?

This is why my point about the "least favorable AT" was relevant to this discussion. Your Holy Grail desires for the Devs to waste their time making all OPTIONS in this game equally desirable by everyone is a Children's Crusade if I ever heard one. *sigh*

90 minutes left on the clock.

You're wasting your time against me because you know my argument that you're just asking the Devs for an "unwarranted entitlement" in having all alignments have some kind of equivalent access to A-merits is valid. If I hadn't called you out you wouldn't be trying to defend yourself here.

Nope. Guess you haven't been reading. I'd certainly be happier with a 45/55 split though or something more like that. Or 40/60.

The current split is 77/23 according to Positron's interview on Ten Ton Hammer.

Yeah, thinking that's a bit off must mean I'm a whiner who would only be happy with an exact split and nothing less!
I see you're new to the internet. Let me have someone show you around...

You don't have a good argument here other than the assumption that some alignments having A-merits and others don't is "unfair". If you can't give a legitimate reason why this is a game-breaking situation then yes I'm forced to just consider something like this a "whine" on your part.

Everyone (who was in the mission long enough) at the end of a badge mission will get the badge reward, regardless of alignment.

As for Merits, only the mission holder (and also the people who are running the same missions and choose to complete them) gets the reward at the end of an arc. In other words, if your level 10 hero joins a level 50 for their story arc, they'll get Merits at the end and you won't.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Explain to me why a 40/60 split would be functionally better or make for a "better" game for you personally than a 77/23 split and I might consider your opinion here.

Yeah, people who whine for changes that aren't justified do make me mad. Make a serious argument for why your position would actually improve the game and I might be willing to listen.

This may well be the case. I only remember the complaint and haven't run an entire arc on the "wrong" side as a tag-along myself.

She's clearly gone off the deep end. Seriously, I had to stop myself from laughing too hard after her line about us having to defend ourselves, lest the boss realize I'm reading a web board! Hahaha.

I think your main problem is going to be convincing the Devs there's an imbalance here.
You think I'm being critical of your position? Wait till the Devs do NOTHING about this situation for you.

You're looking at it the wrong way.

More balanced rewards would benefit me and make it a "better" game and be reflected in the more balanced population. The population is a signal that there's a problem, not the problem itself.

If my deep end is "the way the Devs intended it to work" then I'll be happy to swim here for a long time.

I might, if I knew you would actually listen. You've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you would not.

Do please go on with your tyrannical and egocentric rants. They are most entertaining.

The devs have been known to do nothing about a particular imbalance for years, before they finally come around to addressing it.

I'm patient.