Permadom and Hasten


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Am I correct in thinking that Hasten will always perma before Dom, and then once you have perma-Hasten you also will automatically get permdom? Are there any exceptions (barring teammates)?


 

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I think that's backwards. I think Dom permas before Hasten. IIRC, you need ~70% +Rchg for permaDom, and upwards of 120% +Rchg for permaHasten.


 

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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Perma


Permahasten - Hasten needs a total of +275% Recharge
205% after Hasten's own +70%, 110% after 3 recharge SOs for ~95%

PermaDom - Domination needs a total of +123% Recharge
Unable to slot enhancements so it must all be buffs or set bonuses


 

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perma dom without hasten is about 125% global rech

perma hasten (including the 70% rech from hasten) you will be around 175% rech (so 105% or so for perma hasten)

thus if you get perma hasten you will get perma dom, the only thing is you have to remember to hit hasten or domination when its up becuase you cant have 2 powers on auto, so i just try for about 140% rech so i dont *need* hasten for perma dom, but i have it for some extra rech


 

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So, yes, if you have perma hasten, you have perma dom.

The lowest global recharge you can have and still have perma hasten is ~77.5% iirc. This requires six-slotting Hasten with lvl 50 Recharge IOs and taking one of the second level Spiritual alpha boosts.


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
thus if you get perma hasten you will get perma dom, the only thing is you have to remember to hit hasten or domination when its up becuase you cant have 2 powers on auto, so i just try for about 140% rech so i dont *need* hasten for perma dom, but i have it for some extra rech
A work around I haven't actually tested yet is to tag a bind on to your movement and / or attack buttons to change the auto execute power back and forth so that you are swapping between auto hasten and auto dom or w/e often.


 

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What I have done for other characters who want to Perma something else besides Hasten is have Hasten on Auto and I changed my Tab key to attempt to activate the other power as well as target the nearest enemy.

It seems to work fine but I've never tried it with Domination. The other characters I used this for didn't have the Crash of Domination running out to contend with so it might need extra attention.


 

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What happens between combats, Unnamed?

I've used a bind stolen from someone on here for my Rad to switch between Hasten and AM. It activates one and switches the other to auto at the same time. Works pretty well, but it's high maintenance.


 

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Originally Posted by Shadow Wail View Post
016.25 (Global Rech from IO sets)
020.00 (Increased Attack Speed from Empowerment station)
070.00 (Rech from Hasten)
030.00 (Rech from Frenzy)
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136.25 (Total Recharge)

Is this enough for Permahasten?
You need about 110% global recharge and 3 SOs worth of recharge in Hasten... So, no. Frenzy only lasts 20s so you can't really count on it to apply much to hasten's recharge. Not sure how long the empowerment buff lasts, but even if you take it into account, you'll need about 73.75% more global recharge in order to get perma-hasten.


 

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Originally Posted by Shadow Wail View Post
So I need more set bonuses...I have the money but my build is tight on the powers that would grant a +Rech bonus through IO sets
Post your build, the community might have some suggestions for slotting.


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I'm still a bit confused by all this. Sorry, math is not my strong suit.

So, for permadom I would need ~125% global recharge. That's without Hasten.

So, now, I have Hasten (right now 2 slotted w/lvl 50 IOs). Given that, what global recharge do I need to have permadom? Right now I have 62.5%, but apparently that's not enough. How much more do I need?


 

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You need at least 70% global recharge with 3 slotted Hasten. You could probably stack Domination once as you are now, but since Hasten isn't always up, it won't be perma.


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Great, thanks. So I need at least another set of Decimation or Positron's Blast then. I'm on it...