Elec / ?


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I want to make an Electric Armor Tanker because I see so few of them in the game. Stone, Invulnerability, and Willpower are mostly what I see. I just can't figure out which secondary would be best to go with Electric Armor for tanking on teams.

Here are my thoughts on the advantages of each set in a team tanking situation:

Stone Melee - Two AoE knockdowns and a mag 4 hold.

Super Strength - Nice damage buff and one AoE knockdown.

Dual Blades - Smaller damage buff than SS and smaller radius AoE knockdown.

Dark Melee - More self-healing.


Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? I would be willing to consider a set not listed here if you can make it sound better than these.


 

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/Stone is a great secondary for Elec. The KB abilities allow for a lot of mitigation on top of your resists. Add in HP bonuses if you IO and moderate defense for an extremely durable tank.

At least, that's what I did with Elec/

Elec/DM would also be a great combo. Two exotic damage types and Siphon Life should really compliment the heal.

Now you got me thinking of it.... THANKS!

Oh, and Elec tanks aren't that rare from what I've seen. It's a good solid set.


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i made a elec/stone and omg it was sooo much fun. hes at 50 now!


 

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I love my Elec/Fire. Fast recharging PBAoE's with no endurance issues.


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Making an Electric/Kinetic myself and he is very fun!

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Only 24 so far but he has potential.


 

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My elec/dark tank is very low level at the moment, but I have a theory that I'll have to test when he hits 50...

Capped resists to Smash/Lethal/Energy + 2 self heals + complete immunity to endurance drain? I think it might be able to tank Super Recluse without outside buffing. And while completely ignoring defense.


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
Capped resists to Smash/Lethal/Energy
Just wondering if you're doing this without too much IO investment for S/L res. I'd be interested in seeing the build if so.


@Rylas

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Originally Posted by Rylas View Post
Just wondering if you're doing this without too much IO investment for S/L res. I'd be interested in seeing the build if so.
Never said there wasn't an IO investment.

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It's not quite capped, but the uncommon Alpha will easily do it.


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Other 50s: Plant/Thorn, Bots/Traps, DB/SR, MA/Regen, Rad/Dark - All on Virtue.

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With a rare cardiac boost and a base empowerment buff you should be able to reach the hardcap without IO's.


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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
With a rare cardiac boost and a base empowerment buff you should be able to reach the hardcap without IO's.
Base empowerment buffs are unavailable during master runs.


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
My elec/dark tank is very low level at the moment, but I have a theory that I'll have to test when he hits 50...

Capped resists to Smash/Lethal/Energy + 2 self heals + complete immunity to endurance drain? I think it might be able to tank Super Recluse without outside buffing. And while completely ignoring defense.
Tanking Recluse w/out outside help has been done before with much less effort than actually building a toon for it or using a tank. By a MA/SR stalker no less.


 

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I've recently become a big fan of /Stone while running my Inv/Stone. The two AoE knockdowns cut incoming damage a ton. Not so great mitigation against an AV, but against regular mobs you pretty much neuter them.

DB would likely put out some fantastic damage, and it has a fair amount of KD later in the build. DB/Elec for scrappers certainly pumps out the damage, and I'd imagine it would for tankers as well.

Those would be my two picks of those you listed. Love both of them, and yet they are so completely different in feel.


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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi View Post
Tanking Recluse w/out outside help has been done before with much less effort than actually building a toon for it or using a tank. By a MA/SR stalker no less.
My goal was to be able to do it indefinitely. Overkill? Certainly.

A quick perusal did not show me the thread with the MA/SR tanking Recluse. Could you provide a link?


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
Base empowerment buffs are unavailable during master runs.
Question, how do you plan to shore up your defense for tanking recluse? 10% requires you to use a lot of purple inspirations to floor Recluse's chances to hit(you need 75% ).

Sure you could base your entire build on resistance and get 90%, or you could just build your defenses up instead and carry one orange insp instead of two purples.


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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
Question, how do you plan to shore up your defense for tanking recluse? 10% requires you to use a lot of purple inspirations to floor Recluse's chances to hit(you need 75% ).

Sure you could base your entire build on resistance and get 90%, or you could just build your defenses up instead and carry one orange insp instead of two purples.
I was planning on dumping and ignoring defense entirely, choosing instead to rely upon 90% resistances and an 18% heal that's up every five seconds. That plus energize should, I think, outpace Recluse's damage.

I need to rework that build, actually... what's there is a thought experiment on capping smash/lethal resists. There's plenty of room to tweak that build for a bit more recharge.


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I was planning on dumping and ignoring defense entirely, choosing instead to rely upon 90% resistances and an 18% heal that's up every five seconds. That plus energize should, I think, outpace Recluse's damage.
I doubt that's possible, but let us know how it goes.


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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
I doubt that's possible, but let us know how it goes.
It's a long-term project... the character is still in single-digit levels.


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
My goal was to be able to do it indefinitely. Overkill? Certainly.

A quick perusal did not show me the thread with the MA/SR tanking Recluse. Could you provide a link?
There is no thread, hes a just a friend that was on my team at the time he did it. It's been done by others too, I was just using the MA/SR as an example as that was what I was most impressed by in tanking recluse without any or minimal support. He definitely wouldn't be able to do it indefinitely, but on fast teams its not necessary

Also as for tanking recluse, defense is still important, he stacks mezzes pretty fast if you arent dodging any.


 

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I think I will go with /Dark for the self-healing. None of the other secondaries offer anything substantial for tanking AVs. Tanking standard groups is trivial with defense buffs and the good resistances Electric Armor provides.


 

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Originally Posted by Syntax42 View Post
I think I will go with /Dark for the self-healing. None of the other secondaries offer anything substantial for tanking AVs. Tanking standard groups is trivial with defense buffs and the good resistances Electric Armor provides.
Kinetic Melee offers -DMG debuffs for AV's, if that's what you're after. Elec Armor already has a good self heal.

It has pretty good synergy with Elec Armor overall, with the +recharge and damage aura working well with Power Siphon and Burst(which works well with Elec Armor due to the AoE mitigation).


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
I was planning on dumping and ignoring defense entirely, choosing instead to rely upon 90% resistances and an 18% heal that's up every five seconds. That plus energize should, I think, outpace Recluse's damage.
If you're talking siphon life you'll be hard pressed to get that to land so long as the orange tower is up.


 

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blah, ive got a elec/DB and i really enjoy it. the mitigation is good with sweep combo, but the build is verytight on slots and you need to sacrafice to get softcapped defenses. If i were to go back and rebuild i would make a elec/kin or elec melee. Kinetic melee for the power siphon stack +massive dmg potential or elec melee for the AoE's and -end to foe


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Originally Posted by Briarpatch View Post
If you're talking siphon life you'll be hard pressed to get that to land so long as the orange tower is up.
You heal off a pylon.


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Originally Posted by Smersh View Post
You heal off a pylon.
That would work, but remember you'll be switching targets constantly... taunt LR, heal from a pylon, taunt LR etc.

Your danger time is while both the Red and Blue towers are up... if LR lands two heavy attacks in a row he can faceplant a Granite tanker, and absent a fair amount of defense his odds of getting those two attacks in right after another go way up. I've had him drop my Stone/Fire tanker through Granite & Rooted (capped S/L and ~80% E/N resist) in less than 5 seconds with a couple of lucky hits. He has two attacks that with the red tower buffing him will deal >40% of your HP total even with 90% resistance. Let him land those in a 1-2 punch and it doesn't take much of a "3" to drop you before you have time to react.

Even on my Granite tank I still pop purples to get over 75% defense when going in; once the Red & Blue are down I cease worrying about inspirations. Granted he's only dropped my Granite tank three times out of more than 50 runs, but if he gets lucky you're toast and it can happen WAY too fast to react.


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