Thoughts on dual blade tankers?

I've never rolled Dual blade tanker and I'm curiouse on how the dps manges?

Good for AoE and ST, but feels lighter due to the multiple, smaller hits of the various attacks. As such, it's a more than adequate set damage-wise, but feels quite different from the smashier style of SS, Stone, and the others.

What do you mean by lighter? Was going over my mids build and the dps does seem quite decent. And there are ok aoe's my only fear is mitigation. Tossing up between dual blades or elec melee???

Thanks for the correction, Sailboat.

My advice, if concept is not an issue, go with elec melee if your primary doesn't have a damage aura, but take Dual Blades if it does.

My biggest issue with Tanker DB is that you're forced to take the Tier 1 attack which isn't needed for the good combos in the late game. It does have Bruising for some debuffing, but I found that once I could run the BF->AV combo I didn't touch it anymore.

Yes but if you get the debuff combo it stacks with bruise. Sure it's not as useful when you get the top two combos... but you need something till then.

And now that Fitness is Inherent, you have the space to take and use ALL of your attacks and all of your Combos.

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this is what I love a about the forums, I had no idea DB had mitigation, well that made my choice easier. I had 2 concepts to go with but preferred my DB story. I was playing around with mids and found that I could get more out of DB than Elec melee, nothing as good a FM but much better than EM. Tankyou all for the input much appreciated

The main thing about DB for tankers is choice of primary. Basically, you want one that has stuff you can skip in it. This is a bit less pressing now than it was before inherent Stamina, but to get the most out of DB you want to take every attack it offers.

My main DB tanker is Fire/DB. Since inherent Stamina that character now has room for Burn, Temperature Protection, and RotP, but still skips Fiery Embrace to have all the combos instead.

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Yeah, when I made my db tanker I chose willpower... a set that you absolutely need to take everything for except the tier 8 and 9 powers. It was a tight build until stamina became inherent.

Extra info on this...

When I originally created Sky Commando (my WP/DB Tanker) I took the stamina pool for health, but skipped stamina itself. In the mid-20's I found I my stamina kept dipping... and I decided it was because while the DB attacks are relatively low in end cost, they're also pretty quick, and they chain really well, so you can essentially keep fighting without gaps... which I think (though I never verified) caused me to gradually over time spend more end than I could recover. So I added stamina to the build and voila -- the bar never moved.

Now I have tough and weave in the build, and the end bar DOES move, but it's pretty benign as far as things go.

And of course with i19 every willpower tanker (and scrapper and brute) get the benefit of being supercharged end batteries since they get both.

How would DB combo with Invulnerability then?

I've got one in the early 40's and I think they work quite well together. Scaling +to hit from Invincibility helps keep your combos landing, Dull Pain is the only click power to cause redraw (aside from Unstoppable which I never take), and DB provides some solid mitigation later on in the set in the form of knockdown.

Not really any 'knock your socks off' type synergy, but they do pair well.

Checkmate

Or if your insane like I am, you could go DA/DB. I am a sick and twisted evil man. Who clearly hates himself. But it's okay, it'll get better. Almost level 50, then I can REALLY go nuts with him...

[QUOTE=Tired Angel;3416006]I kind of echo what Heraclea says here. I have a Electric Armour/Dual Blade build planned and because I wanted to take all the ElA stuff and get all the combos I ended up eating slightly in my PPP choices and I was slightly tight on slots. However, with Lightning Reflexes you get a nice bit of global recharge so you can get away slightly with not slotting for that.



Thats the build im doing, ELA/DB although slots are tight i was adamant on getting softcapped defense for s/l/n/e. I wouldnt of worried about energy as much but it cant really be helped since most IO's have Negative and energy hand in hand. I got it done with some playing around and ended up with 3 different builds now so im going to go with most dmg and less end usuage. all resistance a roughly the same and defenses are the same. the difference is $$$$$$$$$

if the build goes well, ill make a video and post it