2011 FArt battle


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Reminder: Less than a week to enter. I know we typically get a lot of last minute entries, just be sure not to miss out!


 

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I think Frozen Death chowed down on any chance I had of winning


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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I think Frozen Death chowed down on any chance I had of winning
It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game! You brought more Fire to the game, so you're not dead yet!

Be Well!
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3. Deadlines- All entries MUST be submitted by Friday, January 22nd by Midnight Eastern US time. Anyone participating who DOES NOT have an active account on these boards may note me via dA at Bubbawheat. I will take Saturday, January 21st to screen all entries for adherence to the theme and rules. Voting will begin on Sunday, January 22nd, held here on the CoH boards. The pieces that I put up for a vote have been personally verified by me, so if you disagree with their qualifications, please give me the lashings rather than the artists.
Can i just check those dates with you Bubba. Friday is the 21st... thought it best just to clarify which day the deadline is for everyone.



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I was just checking the deadline and noticed that too, I was going based on the number 22 but if it's Friday the 21st
people will need to know ASAP especially considering the flurry of last minute entries that seem to happen with these.



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Yes, sorry about that. I edited the first post as soon as I noticed Henri's post. The deadline is tomorrow night at midnight Eastern!


 

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ACK!!! ..so its not Saturday by midnight!!???


 

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Guess not. Well it's not like this has never happened before in a contest, get after it Tatyrsauce!

We still don't know how the later berths will work (any more details Bubba?) but there will probably some kind of point defecit to
make up so I'd say it's better to get something posted even if it's not complete just to be in from the start.
**lights a fire (heh ) under any other last minute entrants too**

NOTICE: That deadline is Eastern so make sure you adjust time for your timezone accordingly.

P.S. Bubba the OP still says Sat is the 21st and Sunday is the 22nd (start of voting) these should read 22nd and 23rd respectively.



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BAM!



Jus' like dat, I'z in teh FArtz...
So yeah here's my uber built Fire/Regen tanker Brahn Furhnos... feel the Burn!
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Nice to see some last minute entries. I was considering entering myself due to the small number of entries. Here's my own last minute inspiration and/or submission. It may seem bad form for the organizer to enter their own contest, but then again, I don't judge anything, I just organize it. If anyone at all objects, this will just be inspiration for the other entrants... very bad inspiration, but inspiration nonetheless.


 

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Submissions for this month are closed. If you missed out because of the date confusion, please post here anyway. Voting thread will be posted sometime on Sunday along with how the points system will work.


 

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Daaaamn, Chris, love the coloured piece. Very nice. (And your flames look better, too D= )


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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no biggy.. I post anyway.. didnt finish tweeking it any how..


 

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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat View Post
Nice to see some last minute entries. I was considering entering myself due to the small number of entries. Here's my own last minute inspiration and/or submission. It may seem bad form for the organizer to enter their own contest, but then again, I don't judge anything, I just organize it. If anyone at all objects, this will just be inspiration for the other entrants... very bad inspiration, but inspiration nonetheless.

I would have no objection to you entering but don't you need fire or something remotely fire-related in your picture?

Sidenote: I posted a thread in the player events section about the FArt, if someone else could update the thread periodically as the months progress it would be appreciated.



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Daaaamn, Chris, love the coloured piece. Very nice. (And your flames look better, too D= )
Thankyou very much Alpha.



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Darn! I missed the start of this! I would have entered art too if I knew! . I suppose I'll stick with voting again...though, if I read correctly there's another chance of entering in April and/or August?

Good work people!

Will the voting be in this topic or a new one?
*waves*
DeeDee


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Darn! I missed the start of this! I would have entered art too if I knew! . I suppose I'll stick with voting again...though, if I read correctly there's another chance of entering in April and/or August?

Good work people!

Will the voting be in this topic or a new one?
*waves*
DeeDee
Correct, you can jump in during April and August.


 

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I have some questions/concerns.

Some things that should be addressed early on, three that I'll mention here, sent you a PM Bubba with some others.

1. Voting for the same person all 3 times. While Bubba hasn't officially stated if this is possible or not under his rules it defeats the purpose of having a multi-vote.
When I first came up with the three point system last year it was as a solution to hugely lopsided vote that happened the first month because people could only vote for one person (Lousy Day won by a landslide while at the other end I think there were several people tied with 0 votes).
The idea of switching to a 3 vote system was to spread the points out more and let people who were torn between several entries pick all their favorites.

2. How much is an individual vote worth? It's already a different system from last year so is it 1pt for each and whoever gets the most mentions then gets 10pts at the end? Or is it still 3points for 1st place, 2 for 2nd and 1 for 3rd and most accumulated points total (and not most mentions) earns you 10 at the end.

3. A ten point must system works fine when you have less than 10 participants, we have 9 currently but since there are no eliminations until June and a late berth into the contest is coming up in April what happens if we end up with say 15 artists in May?

1st place = 10pts
2nd= 9
3rd= 8
4th= 7
5th= 6
6th= 5
7th= 4
8th= 3
9th= 2
10th= 1
11th= ???
12th= ???
13th= ???
14th= ???
15th= ???

If a couple of the same people come in last in both May and June who gets eliminated? Will we switch to a 15point (or however many artists there are) must scoring system where the lowest earner can get no less than 1pt? Will that throw off the intended scoring as the months progress making certain months more valuable than others? It can work that way but I'd like to know in advance if possible.
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Finally I (and I would think those who missed the start date) would like more info about how the late berths will work. Doesn't need to be right away but preferably before April rolls around.
Also I agree with the part Caemgen mentioned in the vote thread about points being given starting after an official decree... awarding points retroactively is not a good precedent.



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1. Tartyr's vote does not count unless he changes his vote to 2 other people
2. Points for votes are same as last year, 3 vote points for first place, 2 vote points for second place, and 1 vote point for third place. These points will then be converted to FArt points based on ranking.
3. In the case of more than 10 participants, those ranked below 10th place would get 0 additional points.

I haven't fully fleshed out exactly how the points system will work, I think it is best to let a couple months worth of points go by to see how they start adding up before I set anything into stone. These are what I do know right now:

Points will come into play starting in June.
June will be the first month with an elimination.
Points will NOT be directly related to elimination.


 

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1. Voting for the same person all 3 times. While Bubba hasn't officially stated if this is possible or not under his rules it defeats the purpose of having a multi-vote.
When I first came up with the three point system last year it was as a solution to hugely lopsided vote that happened the first month because people could only vote for one person (Lousy Day won by a landslide while at the other end I think there were several people tied with 0 votes).
The idea of switching to a 3 vote system was to spread the points out more and let people who were torn between several entries pick all their favorites.

Prehaps the rule could be that although you can vote for the same entrant 3 times, they only receive the points for their highest place vote. So for instance there were only 2 entrants one month and voting resulted in

1st: Entrant x
2nd: Entrant y
3rd: Entrant x

then entrant x would receive 10 points for 1st place, nothing for 3rd, entrant y receives 9 points for 2nd.

In the event of an entrant voting for themselves 3 times, the same rule would apply. Otherwise all entrants would have to vote for themselves 3 times to ensure themselves a fair run, resulting in all those votes cancelling each other out. If that was the case you may as well disclude entrants from voting.

Edit: Nevermind, Bubba's already posted with a solution



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Prehaps the rule could be that although you can vote for the same entrant 3 times, they only receive the points for their highest place vote. So for instance there were only 2 entrants one month and voting resulted in

1st: Entrant x
2nd: Entrant y
3rd: Entrant x

then entrant x would receive 10 points for 1st place, nothing for 3rd, entrant y receives 9 points for 2nd.

In the event of an entrant voting for themselves 3 times, the same rule would apply. Otherwise all entrants would have to vote for themselves 3 times to ensure themselves a fair run, resulting in all those votes cancelling each other out. If that was the case you may as well disclude entrants from voting.
No good either... people would vote for themselves all 3 times as a way to avoid giving points to the competition... it's not always the most 3's that wins it, often times having the most 2's and some of the 3's can score a win. By giving yourself all 3 votes and disqualifying your 2nd and 3rd place votes you deny giving someone else a 2 and a 1.

I'd think the fair thing is pick your three favorites or pass and no one gets your points.

FYI If I understand it correctly, it's actually 3, 2 and 1 points respectively for vote points not 10, 9 and 8. Those larger FArt points (along with the 10 for participating and any bonus points) are awarded at the end of the month to the person with the highest total of 321 vote points.


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............I haven't fully fleshed out exactly how the points system will work, I think it is best to let a couple months worth of points go by to see how they start adding up before I set anything into stone.........
Your contest to run as you see fit but my suggestion would be that you do the math in advance,

Set everything in stone at the outset and adhere to it for the duration.
Only make changes/exceptions in extreme or unusual situations.
Less room for error and/or a last minute plan backfiring.


P.S. One further question has immunity in any form been decided on?


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I think this means I have a chance if I assassinate people
Meh there are 5 months before you even have to worry about being eliminated and from Bubba's above post it doesn't sound like the FArt points will be the deciding factor (??? It'll be interesting to see how this plays out) then either.

That said j00 should totally startz assassinating people in teh alphabetical order...

... Airhead.



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Ok, just to put some more information about points that I have figured out so far:

You will be able to "buy" immunity with your points.
You can use your points to "save" yourself from elimination, but it will cost twice as many points as buying immunity.

I plan to have a full list of uses and prices by April. So there will be some extra strategy involved in this year's FArt battle.