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You will find that my kitchen stays trashed, the sink is full of dirty dishes, and we are out of pepperoni and cheese. Not sure about the bread. Make sure it isn't green and furry if you find any.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
I am going to honor the intent of this thread by going into your kitchen and making a grilled cheese sandwich with pepperoni, then returning to the computer without cleaning up after myself.
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Sam's posts usually rub me the wrong way for some reason. They're generally well reasoned and to the point, but... I dunno.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That's a pretty big understatement.
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Whatever my normal feelings: Damn right, Sam!
I'm enjoying this game currently, content and roleplay, but a set like this would force me to quite for at least two months until all the jackasses who just have to try every new power set have stopped bringing this nightmare to roleplay meets. I'm afraid as suggested, it isn't even a good joke.
I've actually noticed less 4th Wall breaking recently. I haven't noticed that annoying Hellion talking about Influence recently; I can't help wonder if they decided they'd gone a little too far and backed down on it.
And, yes, I assumed the OP was joking. He was actually more serious about it than I thought.
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Damn straight. I want my samurai to be able to wield a yari or naginata. not to mention be able to arm my village of Feudal Japanese guerrillas with bo staffs and spears. |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
To say we *need* anything besides a Polearm/Scythe powerset is, by it's very nature, humorous
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Then there's Fiusionette in the "Save the world" mission from the Dark Watcher saying "Just you wait until my Build Up recharges!" As if I didn't have a whole list of other reasons to hate her.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Originally Posted by Shatterjack
And the answer is "very, very, very little". It's extremely difficult to do well, but very easy to use as a crutch to excuse bad writing.
Champions Online does that a lot, and that is far and away the absolute worst thing about that game. And that's coming from someone who rather likes CO. Get throat cancer, Foxbat... |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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You missed the Rikti Epic AT there, Leo |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
Lol when I walked in and read the OP, this is what I thought (YAY I'm not the person that walked in thinking it was serious!)
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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Building on what others have said, I kinda find the forced dialogue between Fusionette, Faultline and some of the Rikti very, very grating. In fact, a LOT of the forced Rikti dialogue actually just...it hacks me off on a creative level. The Rikti are meant to be badass, they are meant to be scary, even a little creepy. They comunicate via a giant hivemind psi network. They shouldnt speak. They shouldnt ever make lame joke comments.
The Freakshow...hmn. Some are ok. Some are, as others pointed out, lame. I kinda like the theme behind Miss Francines Freaks, in that some might actually realise that, y'know, beating other people up is ok...but beating up criminals to save people is actually kinda nicer. I even added them into a bit of Xmas fiction I did, which I was quite happy with.
Joke Nemesis creatively infuriates me. They have this Michaevellian Archvillain who can, at any moment, step out of the shadows and haul on some strings, endangering countless lives on a whim... and then turn him into a joke. I'm not talking about 'Everything is a Nemesis Plot', because people do that about governements and organisations in real life. Its believable. But he should be cold, calculating, the sort of villain who irrevocably believes he is right and you, you silly little child, are wrong. Like when he's talking to Lady Grey in the RWZ diplomacy mission. THAT is spot on. Some other stuff? Less so. Like the automatons....dear god, this guy is a genius, at least credit him with automatons that actually do their damn job. I know it could all be part of a 'He WANTS you to see them!' sorta plot, but even so...it's meh. Very meh.
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Word. Very much word. Nemesis in particular could use some seriousing up.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Building on what others have said, I kinda find the forced dialogue between Fusionette, Faultline and some of the Rikti very, very grating. In fact, a LOT of the forced Rikti dialogue actually just...it hacks me off on a creative level. The Rikti are meant to be badass, they are meant to be scary, even a little creepy. They comunicate via a giant hivemind psi network. They shouldnt speak. They shouldnt ever make lame joke comments.
The Freakshow...hmn. Some are ok. Some are, as others pointed out, lame. I kinda like the theme behind Miss Francines Freaks, in that some might actually realise that, y'know, beating other people up is ok...but beating up criminals to save people is actually kinda nicer. I even added them into a bit of Xmas fiction I did, which I was quite happy with. Joke Nemesis creatively infuriates me. They have this Michaevellian Archvillain who can, at any moment, step out of the shadows and haul on some strings, endangering countless lives on a whim... and then turn him into a joke. I'm not talking about 'Everything is a Nemesis Plot', because people do that about governements and organisations in real life. Its believable. But he should be cold, calculating, the sort of villain who irrevocably believes he is right and you, you silly little child, are wrong. Like when he's talking to Lady Grey in the RWZ diplomacy mission. THAT is spot on. Some other stuff? Less so. Like the automatons....dear god, this guy is a genius, at least credit him with automatons that actually do their damn job. I know it could all be part of a 'He WANTS you to see them!' sorta plot, but even so...it's meh. Very meh. /rant |
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Originally Posted by SkarmoryThePG
Word. Very much word. Nemesis in particular could use some seriousing up.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Joke Nemesis creatively infuriates me. They have this Michaevellian Archvillain who can, at any moment, step out of the shadows and haul on some strings, endangering countless lives on a whim... and then turn him into a joke. I'm not talking about 'Everything is a Nemesis Plot', because people do that about governements and organisations in real life. Its believable. But he should be cold, calculating, the sort of villain who irrevocably believes he is right and you, you silly little child, are wrong. Like when he's talking to Lady Grey in the RWZ diplomacy mission. THAT is spot on. Some other stuff? Less so. Like the automatons....dear god, this guy is a genius, at least credit him with automatons that actually do their damn job. I know it could all be part of a 'He WANTS you to see them!' sorta plot, but even so...it's meh. Very meh.
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Those are honest instances where you REALLY see Nemesis pull off an honest plot. Though somewhere in my mind I have an odd feeling that Nemesis himself knows about the memetic mutation about him, and revels in it. He probably loves sometimes tossing out random things to lead everyone on wild goose chases or just watch how badly people wet themselves because they don't know what he's really planning.
Send out a few soldiers who make vague mentions of 'a big plan/operation/order', they get arrested, set up a few buildings full or automatons and watch people $h*t bricks as they scramble like chickens with their heads cut off.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
This is why I love Eternal Nemesis, the Mender Silos Reveal, and the RWZ arcs.
Those are honest instances where you REALLY see Nemesis pull off an honest plot. Though somewhere in my mind I have an odd feeling that Nemesis himself knows about the memetic mutation about him, and revels in it. He probably loves sometimes tossing out random things to lead everyone on wild goose chases or just watch how badly people wet themselves because they don't know what he's really planning. Send out a few soldiers who make vague mentions of 'a big plan/operation/order', they get arrested, set up a few buildings full or automatons and watch people $h*t bricks as they scramble like chickens with their heads cut off. |
But when it comes to stuff actually getting in his way and wanting to execute bigger plans, I'd expect the sort of brutal efficiency and cold, logical execution. Not goofing around with automatons that click and whir and have errors.
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.....no.
It would have been an interesting thing to read through if you fleshed out all 9 tiers for each power set, however to actually put it in game, it just seems like it would make the game look very unprofessional and shoddy.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Aye, stuff like that works fine. I mean, who wouldn't, as a villain, exploit every possible angle you could?
But when it comes to stuff actually getting in his way and wanting to execute bigger plans, I'd expect the sort of brutal efficiency and cold, logical execution. Not goofing around with automatons that click and whir and have errors. |
Then there's also the fact that Nemesis has already been kind-of-over-the-top with how he uses steam-tech that's magically superior to non-steam-tech counterparts. Even up to having his own force field Generators (Fake Nemesis), and being able to create portal tech with it. It can be a bit relieving that not EVERYTHING he makes is perfect.
Besides, at least they're not as bad as Robo Ky from Guilty Gear franchise
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Hmn, not quite true. They should give the automatons the snazzy new death animations from the Praet Clockwork, or at least something that sparked. Heck, have one or two explode on defeat.
I think once you take something apart you can tell what its made of. Also, even before the 'Error: Input!' generation of automatons, there were always subtle hints. I prefer that to blatant 'funny' stuff. Although the sort of stuff used in Flambeaux's tip missions and whatnot is ok, it just makes me despise her more 
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Of course Nemesis is serious. Everything is a Nemesis plot!
Take all those 'average citizens' walking the streets. Is it chance that if you try speaking to one whose name begins with F they always give you the time of day? Or if their name happens to begin with G how many heroes are currently in the same area as you? and so on!
I think a good quarter of the population has been replaced with Automatons! Why, if you... hang on, someone at the door.
(Hey - you look just like m-*sounds of a scuffle*)
Sorry about that, they had the wrong address. Anyway, come on, seriously, not EVERYTHING is a Nemesis plot.
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IMO, the problem is that Nemesis got overused by the Devs, to the point where he became a joke.
When it seems that he's behind everything, that he's supposed to always be two steps ahead and yet always loses... sure, the idea behind a Xanatos Gambit is that you win no matter what the opposition does, but he can't ever, really, because the players need to win and the game world needs to stay the same. So he becomes ridiculous, absurd, cliche - transformed from a master strategist to a bumbler who's good at spinning his constant defeats. "I meant to do that." "____ was only a setback!" etc.
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Maybe the original idea is not so good but there is one great point. Blast set with small confusion effect as secondary sounds great idea. Perhaps some other name and some nice primary effect like energy, toxic or psionic would fit greatly.
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I'd like to point out that a forth wall breaking power set series (which I don't support) would basically be named like some of the cards you see in munchkin card game such as: "Whine to the GM" (debuff power), "Addition error" (Self buff), or other things like Induce lag (massive slow and -recharge).
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