Everything about your post made my head hurt, but I'll bite.
I don't think Elec/Elec can solo an AV (assuming no inspirations/temp powers) mostly because of Electric Armor. If you're going to be soloing an AV, it means taking as little damage from the AV as possible, which usually means having 45% defense to one or multiple positions. Since Electric Armor is a resistance based set, this means that unless the AV misses, you're going to get hit every time it attacks. Unless you're fighting an AV that causes only energy damage, you're going to get hit hard, and even with Aid Self in addition to Energize you'll be hurting. I've soloed more than a few AVs with my purpose-built DM/SD (softcapped, enough +rech for the highest DPS attack chain) and even with Siphon Life firing every few seconds I still got killed a few times by lucky hits.
I haven't even gotten to Electric Melee yet, but I don't think it's capable of the single-target DPS needed to kill an AV. It's generally considered an AoE set. I'm not saying it's impossible; I haven't crunched the numbers, but it's doubtful. Even if you did have the best single-target attack chain Elec Melee was capable of, without sufficient damage mitigation you're toast.
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So heres the down lo. Elec/elec,one tough AT to work with but do able, like all toons there is no bad AT just badley built. In which case you need to go for funtionality instead of power. Ur io selection is important here. Purps arnt really going to b ur friend here. I say since ur resistance is high for energy, I would focus on smashing and lethal defense
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I think it could be done, but it would be more limited than others on the AVs it could take.
And like mentioned, purpled out doesn't really mean anything.
Takes layering defenses and getting in the DPS.
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I don't think you could solo an AV for a few reasons. You will need soft capped defenses which is entirely possible but the issue would be to have enough recharge in order to have a good attack chain to achieve the dps to overcome an AV's regeneration, resistances, etc...
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I'm quite sure you could actually do it with any APP/PPP that gives you a good ST blast. JLadder > CBrawl > Blast > CBrawl does decent ST DPS and you can put a purple proc in each of the three attacks.
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Soft cap your defenses to smashing lethal (use a lot of kinetic combat sets.. might even need to stick them in brawl). Get enough global recharge to run an attack chain of Charged Brawl>Havoc Punch>Charged Brawl>Jacob's ladder. Fully slot energize for health and recharge... Stick purple procs in Charged Brawl and Jacob's Ladder. Find an AV that does smashing/lethal damage. Make sure they're level 50.
A big question you may need to ask is whether to run lightning shield or not. You'll get more damage, you'll use more endurance... if you gather minions up to use for fodder for your powersink to get the endurance, then you'd kill them with your lightning shield, so that may not work out so good.
But my vote is a solid yes. It's possible. I base this on my spines/elec av killing experience. Spines has less endurance issues then electric. You've definatly chosen one of the worst scrapper options for AV killing. So you will be limited as to how many you can kill.
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I too think it could be done with the right build if you stick to certain AVs, particularly now with inherent Fitness and the alpha slot. I haven't tried to make the sort of build it would require, but it feels possible to put such a build together to me.
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Out of interest, what is the best Elec attack chain(arcanatime considered), how difficult would it be to achieve it, and finally how does it stack up against the other powersets?
I'm thinking CI-CB-JL-CB? Seems to need a lot of recharge but that core 45% recharge boost coming soon will surely help a lot. I'm also thinking a purple proc in CB will have a lot of chances to proc with that chain.
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Shred what was you chain for spines and how much recharge was needed I so need that i was thinking of pulling out my spines/da again I think i have a build to get the s/l soft capped it the other part I have not gotten down what attacks for sure
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Originally Posted by Shred_Monkey
Soft cap your defenses to smashing lethal (use a lot of kinetic combat sets.. might even need to stick them in brawl). Get enough global recharge to run an attack chain of Charged Brawl>Havoc Punch>Charged Brawl>Jacob's ladder. Fully slot energize for health and recharge... Stick purple procs in Charged Brawl and Jacob's Ladder. Find an AV that does smashing/lethal damage. Make sure they're level 50.
A big question you may need to ask is whether to run lightning shield or not. You'll get more damage, you'll use more endurance... if you gather minions up to use for fodder for your powersink to get the endurance, then you'd kill them with your lightning shield, so that may not work out so good. But my vote is a solid yes. It's possible. I base this on my spines/elec av killing experience. Spines has less endurance issues then electric. You've definatly chosen one of the worst scrapper options for AV killing. So you will be limited as to how many you can kill. |
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Zap Efron AV: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
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- (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
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- (31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
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- (23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Obliteration - Damage
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- (5) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
- (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
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- (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
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- (13) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
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- (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
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- (42) Doctored Wounds - Heal
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- (42) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
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- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
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- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
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- (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 1: Brawl
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- (23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
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- (A) Empty
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (45) Miracle - +Recovery
- (45) Miracle - Heal
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
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- (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
I'll echo the yes it can be done.
Softcap S/L with a good amount of recharge should be possible and you have the aura to help with damage.
Working on a Claws/ElA build myself...
Question...why Havoc Punch? I thought CI was better DPS.
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It should be but the recharge may make it hard when i had someone work up one for me CI was the clear winner over Havoc in the chain cb JL and cI
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Question...why Havoc Punch? I thought CI was better DPS.
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My main, Zap Efron, is purped out and I love him. He's an elec/elec scrappy with alot of time on his hands.
So... if I wanted to solo an AV...
Yea Yea! I know, Elec/Elec? REALLY? Solo an AV??
Sounds pretty impossible I know, but I'd like to know if it CAN be done.
CAN IT BE DONE?!
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