Base building/editor thoughts

While contemplating what to do with a massive energy room that only has one enerygy item in it I got to thinking about blocking things out by filling in 1x1 squares top to bottom, then a thought came to me...

Why do we have rooms at all? it used to be, I assume, for raiding purposes, but what about starting with an 8x8 chunk of property and a 2x2 square from there you have to build square by square. This would have the side effect of allowing things to be placed in hallways.

Also why should there be a limit on what can go into each "room" and instead limit the amount of items per square. why cant a salvage rack go into the base entry if you want it?

Unfortunately this is just a pipe dream, and more of a mental exercise.

That woud require a complete overhaul of the base system, which will "never" be done. I know I would love to be able to use every available square.


never in quotes because they say never to say never. =P

I think (big guess here) the reason doorways have special rules about decor & such is because they are "spawn points" for raiding. Changing the doors to accept decor would require a complete re-coding of that aspect. So, something that seems simple, is actually more complicated.

That being said, I do wonder if it would be possible to add in a "non-spawn" door as an option in the editor.

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Has anyone ever hit the 20K mark with their base decor? Im at 19,464 and if you can't go over 20k, I am screwed because I won't be able to finish my base.

I have a fair amount of salvage bins, But if you seen my base you would realize why my count is so high. I have multiple levels in rooms and numerous desk made walls. My prison room cells have bars that have electricty running through them. I've tried to add great detail in my rooms. sadly most are only at about a 50-75% completetion.

When constructing the Burrow, I wanted to make a 8X8 room with nothing but those library books, I wanted to have stacks of books out floating that you had to either climb or jump over, crawl under, weave through, etc.. It would have been an epic magical library. After finishing 1/16th of the room, the editor started acting buggy. We are talking Joe's apartment buggy. The estimated item count for that room was in the 12K-ish area.

I bleed when I say this: I had to scale back my ambitions.

LOL, yeah but I am not about to tear apart my base yet again to re-do it. I have already done this too many times in the past that I have lost count. I guess I will have to wait and hope that the devs will show mercy and eliminate the cap or make it some unattainable number

The cap isn't a Dev-set limitation. Its a limitation of their database - they simply never anticipated people even going over the 10K item mark, so they didn't design their software to be able to handle it. The more items you have, the more database calls the system has to make, and it gets to the point the base eventually breaks.

To re-write the database system would require a kinda massive amount of work, on the level where it'd probably be easier to write a whole new editor from scratch. Which ain't happening.



-k

Ouch thats not what i wanted to hear. Thanks for the info, now my dreams of finishing my base are crushed lol. well so now i face the question of, do I want to tear it apart and rethink it, or live w/ a partially completed base. for right now I think I'll live with it.

Is there a limit to the number of objects you can have in a room before it doesn't allow you to move it? I have had rooms around the 800-900 mark refuse to move. Even though they show blue when I try to move them, the editor just pauses, then picks up as if I hadn't tried to do anything, the room being left where it was.

Anyone else seen this?