IO Sets (worth it or not?)


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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You'd get the bonus for slotting 3 of the set, twice.


 

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You'd get the bonus for slotting 3 of the set, twice.
Gracias





@Patrick Magellen
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May want to read that 4 or 5 times, as the Law of Five is fairly confusing. Very often 2 bonuses have nearly the same name, or just the same, with a rider. It gets confusing and it's hard to keep track of if you aren't very alert. Mid's REALLY helps. Only part of the IO system that may be as confusing to those new to IOing is the effects of exemplaring. Either of those 2 topics I'd consider upper-level IO classes for sure.

Good luck!


 

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Well.....
I just got home from work and I went ahead to Ms. Liberty and did my 2nd build the way that I drew out on paper.
The correct amount of slots for the powers that I chose the sets for and such.
I did the research for the sets based on affordability, what the bonus factor was and the amount of slots needed.
The first part of getting the correct slots is finished.
Now off to WW.
Be back in a few hours with the results





@Patrick Magellen
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Remember to sleep. I know, more important things to do, trick out your tank... but sleep is GOOD.


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Originally Posted by galadiman View Post
Remember to sleep. I know, more important things to do, trick out your tank... but sleep is GOOD.
I know whatcha mean
I was getting very groggy last night while I was @WW in AP.
Soooooo sleepy that I dang near miscounted some slotting... whew

But.... I created a 2nd build @Ms. Liberty (which I have never done before) with the same exact power choices (just rearranged the slotting and such)

I don't have my home pc in front of me since I am at work now but I remember buying complete sets of Crushing Impact, Cleaving Blow, Dampened Spirits, Doctored Wounds, Mako's Bite, Red Fortune, Titanium Coating, Aegis, Stupefy, Mocking Beratement, and Efficiancy Adaptor.

I know that under my Power Attributes and such it stated that there were TONS of set bonus for each..... it just gets tiring attempting the math (since I do LOTS of math at work all the time )

Hopefully tonight I will try to get some tactics and experience with a couple missions to see what I need to tweak with the other generic IOs that are in the other slots.... whew





@Patrick Magellen
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I know that under my Power Attributes and such it stated that there were TONS of set bonus for each..... it just gets tiring attempting the math (since I do LOTS of math at work all the time )
You might want to take a look at Mids' Hero Designer:
http://www.cohplanner.com/

It does the math for you which makes things a lot easier .


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
You might want to take a look at Mids' Hero Designer:
http://www.cohplanner.com/

It does the math for you which makes things a lot easier .
For some reason I have tried to download it a few times and each time my pc tells me that the file (for the download) is "incomplete"
I don't know if it is because I have Windows 7 or not.....
I don't think it is.... but who knows?





@Patrick Magellen
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For some reason I have tried to download it a few times and each time my pc tells me that the file (for the download) is "incomplete"
I don't know if it is because I have Windows 7 or not.....
I don't think it is.... but who knows?
Huh, I've not heard of that before. I would recommend posting about it in the mids forum:
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....db17c9c60b&c=5


 

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Here are some cheap awesome sets and individual IO's to look into:
(note, check the set bonus's to understnd more)
Steadfast KB IO
Mocking beratement
Titanium alloy
steadfast unique
crushing impact
multistrike
just to name a few. frankensloting is the way to go for now. focus on the good uniques first and then fill in the slots with the mindset of maximizing power attributes.

I also have one idea that always works for me. set yourself to 0/+8 and find a ticket farm on AE. Run it one, maybe two times. get 1500 tickets and roll 20 times. you can either craft all of what you got and sell it or do like i do and sell everything for 1 inf (which isnt smart but rather for lulz). i guarantee youll make 20 mil easy.

Catch me online ( global @doc brietz) on virtue and i will run one time for you for nothing, and ill give you whatever recipes i get and you can do with them what you wish.

i dont always say go farm, but just a few times makes for easy money and floods the market for those who wanna use them for whatever. i will tell you this, save real hard and save yourself 1 billion. I know for a fact you can have a damn good build for that and you will not ever need a purple or pvp IO for anything.


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Huh, I've not heard of that before. I would recommend posting about it in the mids forum:
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....db17c9c60b&c=5
Danke.
Will do that after I get off work tonight





@Patrick Magellen
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Originally Posted by Medic_brietz View Post
Here are some cheap awesome sets and individual IO's to look into:
(note, check the set bonus's to understnd more)
Steadfast KB IO
Mocking beratement
Titanium alloy
steadfast unique
crushing impact
multistrike
just to name a few. frankensloting is the way to go for now. focus on the good uniques first and then fill in the slots with the mindset of maximizing power attributes.

I also have one idea that always works for me. set yourself to 0/+8 and find a ticket farm on AE. Run it one, maybe two times. get 1500 tickets and roll 20 times. you can either craft all of what you got and sell it or do like i do and sell everything for 1 inf (which isnt smart but rather for lulz). i guarantee youll make 20 mil easy.

Catch me online ( global @doc brietz) on virtue and i will run one time for you for nothing, and ill give you whatever recipes i get and you can do with them what you wish.

i dont always say go farm, but just a few times makes for easy money and floods the market for those who wanna use them for whatever. i will tell you this, save real hard and save yourself 1 billion. I know for a fact you can have a damn good build for that and you will not ever need a purple or pvp IO for anything.
Sounds like a neato plan.
I have never ran a toon on Virtue before....
want me to just create a generic toon of any sort? LOL
Gives me another reason to do something on another server





@Patrick Magellen
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save real hard and save yourself 1 billion
When you do and before you spend it, take a screenshot of yourself showing the 1 billion in your stats and post it in the Market subforum to join the Billionaires club. If you include a top hat and monocle, while doing /e teabag, you can be an "Ebil Marketeer Billionaire" too.


Teams are the number one killer of soloists.

 

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Here are some cheap awesome sets and individual IO's to look into:
(note, check the set bonus's to understnd more)
Steadfast KB IO
Just an FYI, a WP tank does NOT need any additional KB protection, so save yourself some influence and skip the KB protection IOs.


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Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012

 

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Alrighty...
I just ran a regular ol' radio mish on PI with the new build and settings set to even level & x8 vs CARNIES of all things.

Damn that was fun!

I noticed a HUGE upswing in my recharge time for my 3 favorite attacks (Crowd Control, Shatter & Jawbreaker) plus the other attacks too obviously...... and I LOVED that aspect of it.

I noticed a BIG difference in my accuracy also which was sweet

I noticed that the damage output was a little lower...
but I looked at it this way.....
if I am hitting them more often and attacking them more often (with my endurance bar still hanging high too by the way like in my original build)
I will be ok with it

It seemed to me that the defenses were a little lower....
but I could be off a tad.
Once I realized that I needed to nail the Dark Ring Mistresses and then the Master Illusionists faster it went well

I also noticed that I had to da "God Power" (Strength of Will) a lot more often.... but I could live with that too

Now to try to up the level difficulty a notch and perhaps against a different villian group and such..... and see how I feel.

Interesting stuff... especially since I have never been that big of a "numbers guy" (statistics, percentages, etc, etc) when it came to my powers and effects.

I usually play by what "feels" right.....
how well I survive and or how well I can help team-mates.

Oh.....
here is the actual set count and the costs involved in what I put on that tank:

Mako's Bite 60 Mil
Titanium Coating 40 Mil
Doctored Wounds 38 Mil
Stupify 40 Mil
Crushing Impact 33 Mil
Mocking Beratement 25 Mil
Crushing Impact 28 Mil
Red Fortune 27 Mil
Cleaving Blow 10 Mil
Dampened Spirits 2 Mil
Aegis 84 Mil





@Patrick Magellen
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Mako's Bite 60 Mil
Titanium Coating 40 Mil
Doctored Wounds 38 Mil
Stupify 40 Mil
Crushing Impact 33 Mil
Mocking Beratement 25 Mil
Crushing Impact 28 Mil
Red Fortune 27 Mil
Cleaving Blow 10 Mil
Dampened Spirits 2 Mil
Aegis 84 Mil
Some of the sets you have here don't make a great deal of sense to me.

I presume you took and slotted Heightened Senses?

If so, the positional defense bonuses you're getting from a lot of these sets are not stacking with Heightened Senses, because Heightened Senses is TYPED defense.

For a Willpower character (ANY Willpower character) I like the following sets: Kinetic Combat, Reactive Armor, Eradication.

I know for a fact that WP/WM can softcap to S/L/E/N defense, because I put together a build that did so. The build also had around 30% defense to F/C.

If your defense feels lower, that's probably because your positional defense bonuses and Heightened Senses are working against each other.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Someone mentioned it earlier, but I would really recommend getting a copy of Mid's Hero Designer:
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Does anyone know of issues with installing this? I've tried on 2 different computers, but it fails (write error) while attempting to install the .exe file.

.Net is on both computers.


 

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Does anyone know of issues with installing this? I've tried on 2 different computers, but it fails (write error) while attempting to install the .exe file.

.Net is on both computers.
Silly question, but you are running the file as an administrator?


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Some of the sets you have here don't make a great deal of sense to me.
Well, his initial plan was to give a shot at Frankenslotting, so getting or even stacking set bonuses weren't a primary concern.


Teams are the number one killer of soloists.

 

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Well, his initial plan was to give a shot at Frankenslotting, so getting or even stacking set bonuses weren't a primary concern.
He said he bought complete sets. I haven't looked at them to see how "appropriate" they are to his AT/powers but he wasn't frankenslotting them.


 

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He said he bought complete sets. I haven't looked at them to see how "appropriate" they are to his AT/powers but he wasn't frankenslotting them.
Sorry about the delay..... work has been a beast lately helping run a hotel
But yeah.... those were all complete sets and if memory serves. Heightened Senses I believe I put two generic lev 50 Defense IOs and a lev 50 End Reducing IO in it.
But yeah.... with those sets all the slots for each of those are in one power. I wanted to see of the bonus aspect would be noticeable.
In some senses I notice a HUGE jump in recharge and accuracy which is nice.
Gonna tinker with some more of it tonight





@Patrick Magellen
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Originally Posted by Magellen View Post
But yeah.... those were all complete sets and if memory serves. Heightened Senses I believe I put two generic lev 50 Defense IOs and a lev 50 End Reducing IO in it.
But yeah.... with those sets all the slots for each of those are in one power. I wanted to see of the bonus aspect would be noticeable.
In some senses I notice a HUGE jump in recharge and accuracy which is nice.
Using Kinetic Combat in your ST attacks, Eradication + Scirocco's in your PBAoEs and Reactive Armor in your resistance toggles will net you a lot more defense that will stack with what you're getting from Heightened Senses. If you do that you'll notice a jump in survivability I'm sure.

Recharge is nice, but Willpower doesn't really benefit from it very much. The only click power in the set is unaffected by recharge enhancement (and global bonuses). If you get just enough recharge to run an attack chain, you don't need to worry about getting any more of it. You'll probably get more bang for your buck out of slotting for typed defense, Max HP, and regen (in that order).

That's just what I've found works best on MY WP characters, if you're happy with yours the way it is, there is no real need to change it.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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The thing with IO's is that you can focus on a few aspects aside from the powers to enhance and add those to an already awesome build. Some want that extra damage, some want recharge, some want defence or a certian type of defence. Some even look at regen/recovery. My stone tank used them to focus on my 3 main holes in my build, (aside from psi attacks, which i just decided was going to stay as was) recharge, run speed and damage. All the other bonus's are just icing on the cake. There are times where purples are great (in stuns and targeted AoE's for example) and times when they are not the best option.

There are awesome cheap sets out there like crushing impact, thunderstrike, mocking beratement, and enfeebled operation. Just pick and choose what suits you!
Also, do not forget the power of HO's in a few select powers and do not be afraind to stick with common IO's or lvl 51 plus SO's. If you exemp down to enjoy other content, you will have to look at that...and others will too. since a lvl 30-35 IO is about the same as a lvl 50 SO, check the prices for good IO's at lvl 30 and you will see a steep incline! for those who make money geting those drops from TF's and turning off experiance, there is a huge market for them!


 

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When you do and before you spend it, take a screenshot of yourself showing the 1 billion in your stats and post it in the Market subforum to join the Billionaires club. If you include a top hat and monocle, while doing /e teabag, you can be an "Ebil Marketeer Billionaire" too.
The way I like to save up influence is to earn alignment merits and sell LotG's. If you do 5 tips a day on two characters and sell the LotG's for around 100mil each you can earn a billion influence in less than a month.