Master of Cuda SF

Doll,

I am in no way picking on you -- just answering your question.

On badge toons, they should have their accolades -- demonic / force of nature / etc. clickies that are up in under 15 minutes and are very useful tools. (Especially FoN, which in turn reduces the rech on the other 'acco clickies')

The biggest tool I see most people not use is ignoring their Candy .. called Inspirations , the things that one continually gets replaced through fighting. With the global mail system you can easily email yourself (what is the current limit 20 emails with attachments?) whatever you need, you can take breaks when low on inspirs and 'restock', etc. Watch when you are next on a SF/TF and check for yourself if people are using them 'only in bad situations' or normal use, the result may astound you that so many people ignore their inspir tray.

--There is also some forethought (call it experience if you want) Does a person Click the heal inspir when damaged or do they know their toon and the things fighting well enough to go 'click a luck(s) and/or sturdy(s) before entering the fight. Foresight is a lot more powerful than hindsight.


You need to do research to figure out what one AV/Hero etc you want to face at the end, for the toon you are playing.. it may be a different hero etc. wanted to face vs. another toon (all depends what is easiest for the toon you are wanting to do it on) As Gi Joe so accurately put it -- knowing is half the battle.. Example: if you are say weak to Psi then don't make the final hero a psi dmg. type, make some other hero your final.



As an afterthougt edit, Rom can be pulled to an area that will give you Zero ambushes allowing you to fight him Solo; actually 3 areas. You can also pull him away from his Nicti, kill him alone then grind down the Nicti themselves (grind down cause killing Rom vs. a Nicti is ridiculously faster).. All depends what you need to do.

Oh I learned the Inspirs thing back in Issue 7, so got that covered. I know lots of people still only use while up against tough bosses.

I am guilty of ignoring FoN a lot. I Use Demonic and Megalo all the time but FoN not so much.

Sad fact is I have been killed by an EB Citadel while I had 4 lucks active, stupid dice rolls

Well, all I saw was an Empath run through the map to BS, find BS, run back to the main room, bring a tonne of aggro behind him to the rest of the team, not stop, barrel straight to the point where BS turns hostile, then try to solo BS while everyone else was handling the aggro that had arrived in the room.

I thought it was funny since even his dual-boxed Tank was taken by surprise by the Emp's actions, and that was the same person. Maybe he forgot which alt was which? (actually, that would pretty much explain everything that happened).

But meh, not too fussed. Hope to try again Sunday.

Bless your heart, Dolly. Most classy of you to take the high road. I can't honestly say I'd have turned the other cheek under similar circumstances.

And, yes, there did seem to be a decided lack of communication at the end. Very disappointing for the final mission to fail so quickly when it needn't have been that way.

Cute that the tank had the aggro Dolly.. The Emp brought zero aggro with him, considering he was the one that TP'ed Dream originally in... High road of you to be fighting mobs after you were TP'ed into a room with Zero aggro, nice...

Anyways....


Apologies. had the EMp on follow to the Tank, no I didn't forget which was which.. Great assumptions there Dolly.

Walking into the room on the tank with BS in tow watching the spam of team chat you were spwewing about how we should not be TP'ed into the final room and fight our way through.. was astounding.


Nice to see on invincible Reich mission you stuck in the mission with the tank while the whole team waited outside as Seldom requested.


More than 2 attempts could have easily been made in that time; again apologies for being the die'ee /happens.. ya move on.

having vent would have been a nice communication tool, and most definately not had multiple people in team chat trying 'to lead'..

Except there wasn't multiple people trying to lead; merely between your choices in how the Sf should be led and the opinions of what Doll had suggested instead.

You are a great tanker, but from the 2nd mission onward, you became frustrated and a little bossy about how things should be done. When an alternative opinion was brought up, you felt undermined, which wasn't the case since we followed your lead anyhow with very little if at all resistance.

Doll should have never been kicked off the team, and even if we didn't have the "Master of" component of 0 deaths, we could have completed it effectively. By singling out a member of the group illustrated a lacking of essential leadership quality and group cohesiveness.

At the start of the final mission I asked if you wanted to fight through the groups to the main room. I said this is what I usually see happen, because it clears all the space for finding/leading the AVs and taking on the ambushes. It's safer, which is good for a master run.

Then when someone died, I mentioned that the groups that had distracted the team wouldn't have been there at all if we had fought through.

That was the full extent of me disagreeing with you. I was more preoccupied with being amused that people were distracted enough to miss teleport prompts than with criticising what you were doing at the time. It didn't bother me that you were forging ahead without explaining what the plan was or considering that some people had no idea what was going on, until you led BS to his aggro location.

Same goes for the third mission. There were people on the team who had no idea what they were supposed to do. While you went ahead with the objectives I sat by the entrance, explained what was going to happen, told people to stay with me or spawn a Ouroboros portal, answered any questions people had (like when Rex asked whether he should exit or not), and exited when Reisch showed up.

I used to get really stressed and bossy in tough SFs, but this wasn't one of those times. With I19 coming next week and me having most of the master badges now, I was happy to just come along for the ride, whether we won or not. The only thing that surprised me was you running BS to the aggro spot, then *afterwards* telling us that we should have been there and not at the door. Some peeps on the team were like "huh? Black Whation?" - they didn't even know there was an aggro spot. They didn't know why you were leading BS, what was going to happen when he got to a certain place, what happens afterwards, etc... we needed to take it slower and explain the whole concept of what was happening, which is why I suggested we take things slow and fight through.

I'd still like to know (genuinely, not in some sarcastic way) two things:

- What was it that you were doing in the second mission with Mueller? Is there some trick in that mission?

- Were you planning to fight Reisch in the final mission and all the ambushes at the same time, or were you going to ask us to retreat and fight the ambushes first, then the main AV?

On the second point, I don't know how we could have retreated from the AV since the tunnels behind us would still have been populated, so I assume you were going to fight everything at once.

I didn't realise I was kicked until someone mentioned it. Apparently after that happened people still in the mish protested, which is nice.

Personally, given how I *can* behave sometimes, my only reaction was "oh, I got kicked for *that*?"

It was like the difference between me saying "OMFG YOU IDIOT WHY DID YOU DIE I HATE U NAO BOOOOO!!!11" and "hmm. You seem to have keeled over old chap. How unfortunate, would you like some tea?"

I was totally up for another try or completing the SF regardless. It would have been useful to see what the whole plan was and whether we could take down Reisch without dying.


Note: If this had been next week and there was an Incarnate component at stake, my reaction would have been quite different

With due respect, Tam, we discussed this in team chat before the SF started. Nobody had a vent server to offer, so I cut and pasted the Champions United vent info, to which you replied, "I won't go on that assh0le's server."

Now, I completely understand the beefs people have with Bud. But, it seems a bit ... rich ... to now complain about not having used vent on last night's Mo attempt when a server was available. If having vent was that important, it should have been a simple thing to overlook any kind of personal beef with another player.

Regarding the time thing, most of the excess time taken was in the second mission, where Meuller was bugged. Wasn't much we could really have done about that. I was pleasantly surprised we got a GM as quickly as we did.

Anyways, thanks for tanking. You honestly did a great job on that front. I would only suggest you be a bit more open to input from other players. Kicking Dolly was more than a bit of an overreaction and I think put a kibosh on a second Mo run, as it put a bad taste in my mouth, and likely others as well.

Cheers...

Who got the killshot has nothing to do with aggro.

Hell, it's not even a foolproof indication of who killed what. Look at the defeat messages for pets and stuff.

Yeahno.

Lessons learned and all that.

G'luck with your next run.

I'm open to giving this another try with the old Fire/Cold. Friday night again?

Oh right. Totally forgot that American Thanksgiving is sometime in November. Is that this coming weekend?

Next Thursday.