I'm also currently planning on throwing in a Numina:Unique and another Performance Proc when i19 goes live.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
Whats with all the imp armors? You kinda never wanna more than 4 slot those and reactive would be way better on /fire.
Also FotG really kind of sucks in PvE and is a waste of money.
Focused accuracy also really sucks in PvE, not to mention the +tohit you gain is really crappy so slotting for that is useless.
Imo consume is way under slotted.
I highly recommend you try and get fighting in there, tough is sweet on a /fire even with high dmg mit sets like stone.
I also recommend dropping stealth for CJ.
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The imp armors are there for the rech, rec, and partly for the added psi res. Reactive doesn't look like it fits very well in what I'm looking for.
FotG also fits in where I need it, with some kb prot, a little res, and a -res proc.
FA also helps...I have it on my main scrapper, and love it. Plus, it helps me get a little extra res and rech.
I wouldn't mind adding a little more to consume, I just don't see anything I could replace that wouldn't take away from something else just as much.
I alread have fighting, tough is one of the powers with the imp armor.
I might look into switching out stealth for CJ.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
I just dropped one imp armor from tough and added shield wall: 3% res to weave.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
Hey-- what are your goals with this build? Survivability? Recharge? Recovery? Another thing-- is this your build for issue 19 where Stamina becomes inherent? There are a lot of things that I would change, but would rather know what you want to do first.
I see that you have built for Psi resistance. One problem with building for Psi resistance is that all of that effort you did netted 20% resistance, which grants roughly the same mitigation as 10% defense. In fact, most of the resistance bonuses are so paltry that it's almost not worth pursing them in place of defense, max HP, or regeneration.
Impervium Armor is a great set-- not necessarily for the Psi resistance, but rather for the combination of recovery and +max endurance.
Edit:: Some more questions. Did you take Stealth because you like to ghost missions, or is it just a mule for a LOTG? I also see you only have 2 viable single target attacks. Would you want more? I know that I sure would.
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Never see FA being 'bad' in PvE. With a character with no perception at all it is nice for smoke nades and the To-Hit helps on Nemesis vengeance.
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Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Whats with all the imp armors? You kinda never wanna more than 4 slot those and reactive would be way better on /fire.
Also FotG really kind of sucks in PvE and is a waste of money. Focused accuracy also really sucks in PvE, not to mention the +tohit you gain is really crappy so slotting for that is useless. Imo consume is way under slotted. I highly recommend you try and get fighting in there, tough is sweet on a /fire even with high dmg mit sets like stone. I also recommend dropping stealth for CJ. |
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The main goals are survivability and recharge, and yes, it's built for i19. My updated build has at least 1 imp armor taken off each power, with Imp Skin:globals added.|
Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure
Hey-- what are your goals with this build? Survivability? Recharge? Recovery? Another thing-- is this your build for issue 19 where Stamina becomes inherent? There are a lot of things that I would change, but would rather know what you want to do first.
I see that you have built for Psi resistance. One problem with building for Psi resistance is that all of that effort you did netted 20% resistance, which grants roughly the same mitigation as 10% defense. In fact, most of the resistance bonuses are so paltry that it's almost not worth pursing them in place of defense, max HP, or regeneration. Impervium Armor is a great set-- not necessarily for the Psi resistance, but rather for the combination of recovery and +max endurance. Edit:: Some more questions. Did you take Stealth because you like to ghost missions, or is it just a mule for a LOTG? I also see you only have 2 viable single target attacks. Would you want more? I know that I sure would. |
I took stealth with ghosting in mind, though I'm not sure I'll stick with that. The main reason I got that (or would go with CJ) is for the LotG. I'm also building with a focus on AoE.
I know this build isn't the best, I'm just fiddling with the idea for now. I'm also working on a defensive based build to compare it with.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
One more question, when building for defense, would it be better to build for positional defense or delivery?
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
If your main goals are survivability and recharge, you would want to do something like this:
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The only skills changed were swapping Stone Fist for Stone Mallet, and Focused Accuracy for Energy Torrent. If you want AoE and Survivability, there is nothing like adding Energy Torrent which is another skill providing chain Knock Down (Fault, Tremor, Energy Torrent).
Some other important points, you generally didn't take the damage procs from the purple sets. You ALWAYS want to socket those over the 53% damage enhancement. They add far more damage than an IO that slams against the ED cap. The only purple set where it's not worth taking the proc is Ragnarok in Energy Torrent, because Energy Torrent already has a 100% chance of Knock Down (which is really broken when you think about it).
Building for Smashing/Lethal defense is the best way to go, and achieving 33% Smashing/Lethal along with 70% global recharge is generally a nice balance in this build. At 32%, one small purple pill will soft cap you for 30 seconds, which is one of the big reasons you shoot for 30%+ Smashing/Lethal defense.
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Just to add. Make sure that your -KB IOs are as low as possible. These are Global bonuses and will disappear if you exemplar below the level of that respective IO. In fact, I would recommend that you do the same with the LOtG +recahrge IOs. Grab level 25-30s instead of the level 50s.
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For Brute "stealth" runs of ghosting missions I take + stealth from flight or running, then use fly or temp jet pack. That gets you to the end of most missions or to the glowies with minimal irritation, and uses no powers. The +stealth on run can go in inherent run, and raptor packs are sold at GV. Ghetto, but it works.
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Originally Posted by Bohmfalk
I took stealth with ghosting in mind, though I'm not sure I'll stick with that. The main reason I got that (or would go with CJ) is for the LotG.
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Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure
If your main goals are survivability and recharge, you would want to do something like this:
The only skills changed were swapping Stone Fist for Stone Mallet, and Focused Accuracy for Energy Torrent. If you want AoE and Survivability, there is nothing like adding Energy Torrent which is another skill providing chain Knock Down (Fault, Tremor, Energy Torrent). Some other important points, you generally didn't take the damage procs from the purple sets. You ALWAYS want to socket those over the 53% damage enhancement. They add far more damage than an IO that slams against the ED cap. The only purple set where it's not worth taking the proc is Ragnarok in Energy Torrent, because Energy Torrent already has a 100% chance of Knock Down (which is really broken when you think about it). Building for Smashing/Lethal defense is the best way to go, and achieving 33% Smashing/Lethal along with 70% global recharge is generally a nice balance in this build. At 32%, one small purple pill will soft cap you for 30 seconds, which is one of the big reasons you shoot for 30%+ Smashing/Lethal defense. EDIT:: Just to add. Make sure that your -KB IOs are as low as possible. These are Global bonuses and will disappear if you exemplar below the level of that respective IO. In fact, I would recommend that you do the same with the LOtG +recahrge IOs. Grab level 25-30s instead of the level 50s. |
Thanks, that looks like a pretty good build. I'll probably slot one of those healing uniques into health when i19 goes live, so I'll have another slot to throw somewhere.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
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Yeah, I always slot a stealth into sprint. However, sometimes it just doesn't quite do it, so I was thinking about going with stealth. Oh well, I'll figure that one out later, it's not the most important part of the build.
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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
For Brute "stealth" runs of ghosting missions I take + stealth from flight or running, then use fly or temp jet pack. That gets you to the end of most missions or to the glowies with minimal irritation, and uses no powers. The +stealth on run can go in inherent run, and raptor packs are sold at GV. Ghetto, but it works.
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Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
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That's a good idea. In fact, it's best to move all of the uniques (Numina, Miracle, Regenerative Tissue) down into Health so that you retain them when you exemplar.
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Originally Posted by Bohmfalk
Thanks, that looks like a pretty good build. I'll probably slot one of those healing uniques into health when i19 goes live, so I'll have another slot to throw somewhere.
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Yet another good idea. I'll just have to figure out where to take the slots from. And I'm thinking a chance for end proc in stam would be a good idear too.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
Julius, I made a few alterations in your build, dropped a couple percent in s/l def but i got about 4% extra in melee, plus a percent or two to most other types of def. Lost a little bit here and there on other stuff, I think it was in all worth it. I'm gonna repost with the new build in a new thread.
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
Would this work ? about 16% defends + the to hit debuf from Darkest Night about 15%, fast aoe stun and fast heal/burn and aoe kb. Awefull against psi tho...
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Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Stone Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Stone Mallet
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (5) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (11) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
- (5) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (36) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge
- (9) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun
- (9) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance
- (37) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range
- (37) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (46) Razzle Dazzle - Chance of Immobilize
- (A) Empty
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (19) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (19) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
- (40) Miracle - Heal
- (43) Miracle - +Recovery
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
- (21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
- (21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (40) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (23) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (23) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (27) Eradication - Damage
- (27) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
- (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (25) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
- (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Eradication - Damage
- (29) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (29) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
- (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (A) Apocalypse - Damage
- (31) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (31) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
- (34) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (33) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
- (A) Empty
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
- (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
- (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance
- (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
- (A) Hecatomb - Damage
- (48) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (50) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
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I don't know about that....your resist and def are almost all lower than the last build I have posted. You're max hp, regen and recovery are quite up there, but I'm not sure that slotting for those over def and rech is the best way to go. You also look to be built more for single target attacks, while I'm trying to focus more on AoE.|
Originally Posted by TheLastBoyscout
Would this work ? about 16% defends + the to hit debuf from Darkest Night about 15%, fast aoe stun and fast heal/burn and aoe kb. Awefull against psi tho...
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I don't have much experience with builds that take regen/rec/max hp without being built for it to begin with (my regen scrapper has all 3 built right in), so I can't give much of a critique/comparison on how well it would do vs being built for def/rech.
You might also want to start thinking about putting together your build with i19 in mind, where the fitness pool will become inherent. (You won't get any more slots, but fitness will still be slottable if you want to).
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007
This is another draft of my Stone Melee/Fiery Aura Brute. I'm going for damage resist (trying something new) and recharge. Any more suggestions/critiques?
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Lee Vitoll Behind: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Stone Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Stone Fist
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Fire Shield- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (7) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
Level 2: Heavy Mallet- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (11) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (27) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 4: Healing Flames- (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
- (5) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
- (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal
- (37) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
Level 6: Fly- (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (7) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
Level 8: Fault- (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
- (9) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
- (9) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (29) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (39) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
Level 10: Boxing- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 12: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Tough- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (15) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (46) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
Level 16: Plasma Shield- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (17) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (17) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (46) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
Level 18: Seismic Smash- (A) Hecatomb - Damage
- (19) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (34) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
Level 20: Consume- (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
- (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 22: Blazing Aura- (A) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage
- (23) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge
- (23) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
- (50) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 24: Build Up- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
- (25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (40) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
Level 26: Weave- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 28: Stealth- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 30: Burn- (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 32: Tremor- (A) Armageddon - Damage
- (33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
- (34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
Level 35: Fiery Embrace- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Temperature Protection- (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 41: Superior Conditioning- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
- (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
- (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (42) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
- (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
- (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
Level 44: Focused Accuracy- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
- (45) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (45) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 47: Physical Perfection- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (48) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (48) Miracle - Heal
- (48) Miracle - +Recovery
- (50) Panacea - Heal
- (50) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
Level 49: Taunt- (A) Taunt Duration IO
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: FuryLevel 4: Ninja Run
Topher Wade lvl 50 Claws/Regen
The Crimson Heroes Society SG
Chaos Faction VG
Official Naturalized Citizen of Justice since 2007