A merits vs. random rolls


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Anyone giving up random rolls entirely? Switching to 50 merits+20 mill to buy an a-merit exclusively?

Given the continued price dropping of LoTG and Numinas, I suspect a fair number people are. Curious on when it's going to reach an equilibrium; with fewer people doing random rolls, it's going to make more recipes rarer.


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I have been checking the prices for both recipes and crafted on some key IOs. For now, sticking with A merits since I have done not too bad yet. But will probably stop when the returns break even.

My new brute is about to ding 30 and has 4 A merits (since I have been doing only tip missions since lvl20). I looked at lvl30 prices and they are pretty nice.


 

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I don't do straight 20 merit rolls anymore. I always convert merits to A merits. From there I can decide whether to do 5 rolls with one A merit or to save them to buy something.

At level 32/33 I try to accumulate and random roll as many A merits as I can as I like to stockpile IO's at that level for builds - so that the set bonuses exemp down to 29/30 and you still get decent enhancement numbers.


 

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Part of me is annoyed over the change to the game/financial system. Part of me doesn't care and wants to just play like normal, but another part wants to play in the most financially beneficial manner / "game the system" in the easiest way.

On my way up, I usually run missions and task forces. But this raises the question; why do anything but A-missions? There is currently a fairly significant financial incentive to only do that. It's far more efficient then doing the 50/20 conversion.

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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster View Post
On my way up, I usually run missions and task forces. But this raises the question; why do anything but A-missions? There is currently a fairly significant financial incentive to only do that. It's far more efficient then doing the 50/20 conversion.
Because it's boring? At that point you might as well hop into an AE building and run it to 50.

Personally, I have a couple of toons that I have been grinding a-merits on. One blue (scrapper) and one red (brute). Yes, I know with the email system in place it's not necessary but doing things this way at least adds a little variety. I tend to run the scrapper more because I find the villain morality mission more annoying than the blue one.

As far as the 50/20 situation, I suspect the devs will eventually regret putting that carrot out there. Not so much that you can convert reward merits into a-merits but that you can essentially convert 50 reward merits into 100 reward merits as far as random rolls are concerned.


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Because it's boring? At that point you might as well hop into an AE building and run it to 50.

Personally, I have a couple of toons that I have been grinding a-merits on. One blue (scrapper) and one red (brute). Yes, I know with the email system in place it's not necessary but doing things this way at least adds a little variety. I tend to run the scrapper more because I find the villain morality mission more annoying than the blue one.

As far as the 50/20 situation, I suspect the devs will eventually regret putting that carrot out there. Not so much that you can convert reward merits into a-merits but that you can essentially convert 50 reward merits into 100 reward merits as far as random rolls are concerned.
AE gave xp at a highly advanced rate; however, it was a VERY cash poor way to level up.

As for the conversion of 50 to 100? Yeah, but 20 mill puts a BIG caboosh into that. I'd rather have 2-1/2 rolls plus 20 mill then having 5 rolls.

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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster View Post
AE gave xp at a highly advanced rate; however, it was a VERY cash poor way to level up.

As for the conversion of 50 to 100? Yeah, but 20 mill puts a BIG caboosh into that. I'd rather have 2-1/2 rolls plus 20 mill then having 5 rolls.

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The way I look at this is I certain earn 20 million running TFs/SFs to get those 50 merits, so the merits+inf earned= double merits. I'm all for that.


 

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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster View Post
Part of me is annoyed over the change to the game/financial system. Part of me doesn't care and wants to just play like normal, but another part wants to play in the most financially beneficial manner / "game the system" in the easiest way.

On my way up, I usually run missions and task forces. But this raises the question; why do anything but A-missions? There is currently a fairly significant financial incentive to only do that. It's far more efficient then doing the 50/20 conversion.



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I am too, and my problem is the 20 mil on top of 50 merits. I think it is a gamble. I have done the 5 rolls for 1 A merit, and got garbage. Not worth the 20 mil. So, I refuse to do it. If it was trade 50 merits for 1 A merit that's fine, but why the 20 mil on top of it? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


 

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The way I look at this is I certain earn 20 million running TFs/SFs to get those 50 merits, so the merits+inf earned= double merits. I'm all for that.
I don't think I really earn 20 mil, but then again, I am usually in SG mode. I think it's just too much when they add the 20 Mil.


 

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You speed too much .

I usually net about 5-8 mill an itf then selling whatever drops I get I can usually clear the other 4-10 mill I need to get to 20 per 2 ITFs.

I guess the other factor is I usually don't play anything other then a 50. So my inf/tf rate maybe a bit higher then someone running a toon up in levels on a TF.


 

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i've yet to see an a-merit. i've been slacking


 

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I cashed in my very first A Merit for 5 randoms. VERY disappointed. Got 5 trash recipies that were on the market for less than 11,000 inf each. Talk about an unlucky roll.


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Originally Posted by damienray View Post
I cashed in my very first A Merit for 5 randoms. VERY disappointed. Got 5 trash recipies that were on the market for less than 11,000 inf each. Talk about an unlucky roll.
I think a better strategy might be; buy something that's worth the most at the time, craft it, and sell it.

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I think a better strategy might be; buy something that's worth the most at the time, craft it, and sell it.
Which is essentially what some are doing.

I've found that it takes me between 1.5-2.5 hrs to get an a-merit. Depends on whether I'm dawdling at the market between missions and how many escort tip missions drop.

As far as how I'm using them. Eh, it's probably not the most financially correct method, but so far I've been using them to get recipes like Numina heal and LotG defense that sit in the 25-30M range on the market. I need a ton of these and they're only 1 a-merit each.


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You speed too much .

I usually net about 5-8 mill an itf then selling whatever drops I get I can usually clear the other 4-10 mill I need to get to 20 per 2 ITFs.

I guess the other factor is I usually don't play anything other then a 50. So my inf/tf rate maybe a bit higher then someone running a toon up in levels on a TF.
I do mainly run speed TFs, but I pretty much only play 50s, and the lowbie is on to mooch. LOL Sometimes I just think they set things too high, and don't really pay enough attention to how they balance out.

2 A merits for a 7.5, Reg/Recov Miracle recov
20 merits for a purple

doesn't make sense to use the A merits for purps in the least.

Same thing they did with tickets... the gold roll is an insane amount of tickets, and you end up getting Shite!!!


 

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i been using the alignment merits i been getting for directly buying LOTGs for the tons of toons i have which will need them lol

if purps were cheaper say only 10-15 alignment merits i would prolly save them up more