Domination?


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Another new to dominators question.
When you activate Domination does a mag 3 hold become a mag 6 hold?
Also, I have seen "perma-domination" bandied about the forums?
How is this done exactly? Is the domination bar not filled the same way a Brute's
fury bar is?


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Originally Posted by Northman View Post
Another new to dominators question.
When you activate Domination does a mag 3 hold become a mag 6 hold?
Also, I have seen "perma-domination" bandied about the forums?
How is this done exactly? Is the domination bar not filled the same way a Brute's
fury bar is?
Yes, domination doubles your magnitude, and also gives a longer last to your controls.

"Perma-domination" works because of this: so long as domination is active, your domination bar stays full. It empties when domination goes down. As such, if you get enough recharge bonuses, you can re-activate domination so long as the "old" activation is still up. Thus, you can keep doing this making it permanent.*

Note: domination is differently built than fury. It goes up when you use a control, even faster when you use an attack, and even faster still if you have team members nearby. You do not get domination for being attacked.

*You lose it when you die, though.


 

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Whew. Sounds like a lot of recharge bonuses to do that though.


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Domination takes a very long time to build, you might build it as few as two or three times during a short mission. It's not like Fury which goes up and down constantly.

Perma-domination essentially cuts out the time needed to build it back up again, allowing you to just go on the first time you build it when you enter the mission and then keep it up until you complete it. It does take a lot of recharge, Hasten is really necessary, and from there you need IO Sets that give recharge. AFAIK, it is not really possible to achieve perma-dom until your 30s, and it only really comes into its own (with double or triple Dom) at 50 with purple Sets.


 

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Does Domination actually double the magnitude? I've played a ton of Dominators but I never actually measured the effects. I always assumed it was +1 mag. But again, I never thought about it.

Lewis


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Does Domination actually double the magnitude?
For the most part, powers in the primary get the mag doubled if it's effected by domination. Effects in the secondary vary. Some only get +1 mag, some double the mag, some are not effected at all.


 

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Domination takes a very long time to build, you might build it as few as two or three times during a short mission. It's not like Fury which goes up and down constantly.

Perma-domination essentially cuts out the time needed to build it back up again, allowing you to just go on the first time you build it when you enter the mission and then keep it up until you complete it. It does take a lot of recharge, Hasten is really necessary, and from there you need IO Sets that give recharge. AFAIK, it is not really possible to achieve perma-dom until your 30s, and it only really comes into its own (with double or triple Dom) at 50 with purple Sets.
hasten is not necessary to get perma dom, but it does however allow you to make a cheaper build for perma dom

the final build i have planned for my earth/fire/fire dom will have 140% global rech without hasten and you only need about 123% global rech for perma dom (with 140% global rech ill actually be able to get perma hasten since i dont plan on dropping hasten, with hasten my build will be at 210% rech)

if you want to see my pre-i19 build for perma dom (which will stand at 117.5% rech with no hasten) i can get the mids info to post or can PM me

and as another part to that, the villain alignment power frenzy [temporary powers.frenzy] will fill domination bar to 100% when used giving you a quick star domination


 

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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon View Post
Does Domination actually double the magnitude? I've played a ton of Dominators but I never actually measured the effects. I always assumed it was +1 mag. But again, I never thought about it.

Lewis
It varies based on the Power. I think for the most part the magnitude 'doubles'.

Basically when Domination is active, your mez powers fire a secondary effect with its own magnitude(effectively doubling the mag). The secondary effect has a longer duration than the primary. The primary will wear off in its usual time, the secondary effect lingers about 50% longer.

Let s say you fire a Domination enhanced Hold. If it's primary effect is 10 seconds long, the secondary will be 15 seconds. The foe will be held Mag 6 for 10 seconds and 5 seconds at Mag 3. Minions and lts. will be held for the full 15, but Bosses will only for 10(assume you haven't stacked on another use of the power).


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I thought what it does is add a second effect. Not actually modify the initial power, but ad a second. Which is what gives the result DerangedPolyglot describes.


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How does domination affect psuedopets, then? I was curious if domination affected the whole Synaptic Overload chain or just the first target. Also, how does domination affect procs such as the Confusion proc?

Thanks for any clarification on these issues.


 

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I thought what it does is add a second effect. Not actually modify the initial power, but ad a second. Which is what gives the result DerangedPolyglot describes.
Sorta.

All the Domination compliant control powers come with an addition in that they'll fire off (technically) two controls at the same time, but only if the "In Domination Mode" flag is active.

Since the two controls are of the same type, they'll stack up. The Devs could make it so that activating Domination causes a Hold power to apply a Stun as well, but that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.


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Wow. I knew Domination felt good when I used it but I didnt realize how good it was. All I knew was that I could hold stuff I normally couldnt. Sweet!

Lewis


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How does domination affect psuedopets, then? I was curious if domination affected the whole Synaptic Overload chain or just the first target. Also, how does domination affect procs such as the Confusion proc?

Thanks for any clarification on these issues.
domination does not affect pseudo pets

examples of this come to mind with volcanic gases, the sleep patch in elec control (dont recall name atm), and synaptic overload after the first hit, none of these powers receive a domination boost aside from the first hit on synaptic overload because you have to initiate the chain