25 fires and 25 hellions?


BBQ_Pork

 

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Checked out the wiki, and apparantly there are badges for 10, 50, and 100 hellions/fires for the arson. I have an incomplete badge that says it wants 25 fires/hellions and won't change, saying I've defeated 24 fires. What is this?

edit: Also, if it helps, my alignment is rogue


 

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You've been participating in the Steel Canyon zone event?

I've got this incomplete badge on many characters, but bugged. Shows a full progress bar, but no numbers when moused over, and I know that those characters haven't earned very much progress on the badge, but have earned *some*.


 

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Yeah, been doing that. Already got the second badge for it so far, just have that one incomplete one that won't change.


 

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Originally Posted by Devlin_Quaid View Post
Yeah, been doing that. Already got the second badge for it so far, just have that one incomplete one that won't change.
It wont change because it's really only showing ONE of the two requirements. If you are defeating Hellions endlessly, try taking out more fires instead. It'll come in time.


 

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Hi,

if you check your "nearest to completion" listings you should find two entries with regard to the "Fires" badges.

One lists the number of Hellions required and currently defeated and the other gives the number of fires requiring extinguishing and your current total achieved.

These were added just recently and are not next to each other in the listings (at least not on my machine).

I have an alt with all the Hellions defeated that is top of the listings and about 50% of the fires which is seen very near the bottom.

Cheers


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Originally Posted by jacktar View Post
Hi,

if you check your "nearest to completion" listings you should find two entries with regard to the "Fires" badges.

One lists the number of Hellions required and currently defeated and the other gives the number of fires requiring extinguishing and your current total achieved.

These were added just recently and are not next to each other in the listings (at least not on my machine).

I have an alt with all the Hellions defeated that is top of the listings and about 50% of the fires which is seen very near the bottom.

Cheers
The "Closest to Completion" tab is generally sorted from highest percentage to lowest percent complete. The position they appear on your screen would not necessarily match anybody else's.

As for the second one you are seeing that shows Hellions.. are you sure you aren't referring to Hellspawned, for killing Hellion Bosses? I just tested on a low level character that had done no fires, and earned the first badge very quickly, then defeated a couple more Fires and Hellions and looked for the progress bars you describe. I only see the one we've always seen for the fires. The Hellion Bosses is not connected to the Fire event.

If that's really a new feature, I'm missing it. Typically, people will wipe out mobs and mobs of the Hellions with AoEs, which will fill your progress bar fast and make it look complete. Then it's just a matter of putting out enough fires to finish it off. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell how many fires you have put out if that's the case.

For clarification, the badges are:
Volunteer Firefighter (Fire Bane) - Defeat 10 Hellion Arsonists
Firefighter (Firestomper) - Defeat 25 Fires AND 25 Hellion Arsonists
Fire Chief (Asbestos) - Defeat 100 Fires AND 100 Hellion Arsonists


 

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Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork View Post
You've been participating in the Steel Canyon zone event?

I've got this incomplete badge on many characters, but bugged. Shows a full progress bar, but no numbers when moused over, and I know that those characters haven't earned very much progress on the badge, but have earned *some*.
If you look, the badge information in-game shows "This counts the number of Hellions defeated." or something along those lines.


 

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Hi,

further to the above, I have had a quick check ingame and see the following in my nearest to completion listings:

UNKNOWN
Gain this badge by defeating 100 Hellion Arsonists and 100 of the fires they set. This progression meter counts Hellions defeated.

(This badge counter sits at the top of my nearest to completion lists. It is full and I get no Pop-up info if I hover over the icon. Presumably because it is at 100% as shown in the blue meter line?)

UNKNOWN
Gain this badge by defeating 100 Hellion Arsonists and 100 of the fires they set. This progression meter counts Fires defeated.

(This badge counter sits way down the lists and the Pop-up shows 37 of 100 defeats - 37% complete)

I also presume that the two UNKNOWN titles actually refer to the same badge, in this case the "Fire Chief" one, being the last of the three in the set.

Cannot confirm that these meters work in the same way for all three badges.

I can therefore ignore Hellions and concentrate on the missing 63 fires

All this just for info and not sure if it clarifies anything.

Cheers


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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
If that's really a new feature, I'm missing it. Typically, people will wipe out mobs and mobs of the Hellions with AoEs, which will fill your progress bar fast and make it look complete. Then it's just a matter of putting out enough fires to finish it off. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell how many fires you have put out if that's the case.

For clarification, the badges are:
Volunteer Firefighter (Fire Bane) - Defeat 10 Fires OR Hellion Arsonists
Firefighter (Firestomper) - Defeat 25 Fires AND 25 Hellion Arsonists
Fire Chief (Asbestos) - Defeat 100 Fires AND 100 Hellion Arsonists
They added a second progress bar in i18 to track the fires for the SC events. If you view the Defeats tab, that bar will be right below the Hellions bar. It will disappear after the badge was granted. You also don't get the next tier tier of progress bars until the current ones disappear, but they will still track.

As far as Volunteer Firefighter, I think we need to go back and actually read the requirements on this one. Someone recently changed it to 10 fires and arsonists on the wiki, but that doesn't seem right at all.


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Originally Posted by SaintNicster View Post
As far as Volunteer Firefighter, I think we need to go back and actually read the requirements on this one. Someone recently changed it to 10 fires and arsonists on the wiki, but that doesn't seem right at all.
Actually, if you look at the history for that page, you will see that it said 10 for a long time (2½ years).

But the Defeat badge page said it required 25 of both, so I certainly changed it there.

The second badge in the series was also wrong, saying it was 50 of both, so I fixed that to say 25 as well.

(Thanks for catching them in the "in-game sequential list" as well. I missed it.)

All other resources, including Badge Hunter, City info Tracker, and even those actual badge pages all list the requirement as 10, 25/25, and 100/100, so it was inconsistent and needed to be corrected.

Edit:
It seems somebody decided to go in right behind me and change my OR to an AND. I'm positive that is not right though. I'm certain it's possible (or used to be) to get that badge without putting out any fires, which is probably why Fires wasn't included on the list to begin with. Well, I'll leave it alone for now until I can go ahead and re-verify it again in-game. It's close enough for now. lol


 

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Hi Guys,

I have just rolled a new alt on Pinnacle so will hop over and check the first badge out next time ingame

Cheers to all.


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Hi,

well just took my alt to Steel and defeated 10 Hellion arsonists and never went near a fire (never even picked up the extinguisher) and was awarded the first badge "Volunteer Firefighter".

The badge definately needs only 10 Hellions OR 10 Fires.

Cheers


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unless you are a cheese!

 

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Originally Posted by jacktar View Post
Hi,

well just took my alt to Steel and defeated 10 Hellion arsonists and never went near a fire (never even picked up the extinguisher) and was awarded the first badge "Volunteer Firefighter".

The badge definately needs only 10 Hellions OR 10 Fires.

Cheers
Thanks for confirming. I'll make sure it's fixed. Hopefully nobody will come in behind me and change it again. lol

Edit:
It's been confirmed that defeating fires has no effect on the first badge. I personally defeated upward of 30 fires without touching any hellions and still didn't have it. It requires only 10 Arsonists. The wiki is now correct on the defeat badges page, and I sent Beefcake a message about it as well so he can verify his site shows the correct information.