Can a MM live through a Hami or RWZ raid?


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Thanks in advance!


 

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Yes, just as well as any other AT, if you know what you're doing (ie: don't take all of your pets out of Bodyguard mode, etc.).


 

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What I found to be an issue is with placement type powers the lag makes it very hard to drop stuff on the ground. I have tried several times to drop a Triage beacon on the ground but it would just not drop. Once it did I discovered you had to key up the next power for it to work. The minute you stopped you would have to start and try to get it it going again. I would have my pets goto here just to keep my chain going.


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Hami raid is kinda tough on MMs. With my bots/FF, I typically bubble the team first and maybe direct the bots around, if they seem to be responding.

I hot-key (bind) "/petcomall def fol" . I mash it constantly throughout the raid. This gets the pets moving towards me, and hopefully in Supremacy range so I have some bodyguard. If the raid movement slows down a bit and the pets seem to be responding well, I'll order them onto the raid-leader's target. The assault bot has a bit of -Regen, it helps.


Mothership raids are easier. Again, spamming "/petcomall def fol" is important when you're moving fast and hitting the pylons. Sometimes the pets make it and sometimes they don't. Again I just bubble the team, run Dispersion Bubble over the fighters close to each pylon and just try to keep up. Keeping up is hard, don't get frustrated if you fall behind.

If you have Fly, it helps to fly high over the terrain in between each pylon. This keeps stray Rikti on the ground from taking pot-shots at you. Use inspirations or your patron shield to keep yourself alive if you need to. In a pinch, a res'er will get you or you can hosp.

Once the Mothership raid moves to the center of the bowl you should be in much better shape. Drop some debuffs, keep FFG up, and then start summoning and buffing any pets you are missing. Blue insp. help here. Just keep it up and remember it's not always possible to keep all of your pets or even yourself alive. Raids do wipe sometimes, and individuals do die.


Oh, and for lag, I always reduce my graphic settings to minimum before any raid starts. Don't wait, just do it right away while the teams are still assembling. Better yet do it before you zone in to Abyss/Hive or RWZ. I also set my costume to the most basic I have. I keep a simple costume with no wings, auras, cape or other particle effects just for raids (it's my level 1 costume, actually, I'm a bit nostalgic about it).

But sliding your graphics all the way down is probably the most important part of keeping your rig stable during a big raid. Don't be proud, just do it and enjoy being a full participant in the big event.


 

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Another problem for hami and RWZ raids can be the "pet run into melee" bug/issue we currently suffer, hence the need to spam the "defensive follow" or "goto defensive" binds/macros, otherwise you could just find your entire raid consists of you constantly spawning pets, and nothing much else.


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I haven't done Hami raid but I hate using my MM during Mothership raid just because I hate resummoning/upgrading them again and again. Using bodyguard is worse because any elites using aoe wipe them out so quick and I am already fragile enough.

Of course if you are on a big/good team with tons of tankers/brutes drawing aggro, it makes MM more enjoyable. I know I didn't enjoy. I probably brought one of the worst combos there Merc/Poison. lol Man, do I regret.


I may have brought Necro/Pain there one time and the experience was a lot better than Merc/Poison.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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I play my MM as a pure support toon that has meat sheilds to absorb Mito aggro. Any damage they absorb is most likely damage that the rest of the raid doesn't get. Very nice for soaking the Blue Lightning and Green Beams.

I also have my pets on passive mode to more easily control them, since BG-Mode isnt going to be that helpful considering all the large radius AoE damage being thrown around.

More Controllable henchmen > Henchmen attacking every mito in range but in BG-Mode.


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I kinda prefer my bots/ff or bots/traps to other toons on RWZ raids, because when I'm lagged for 5 seconds at a time my bots are still killing stuff. Both of those builds are low maintenance, so it's lag-friendly.


 

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Since MMs are unique in that they can feed their pets insps, I sometimes throw an EoE on my Assault bot and run it into Hami to take the alpha. Without any kb protection it gets knocked around a lot, but it can survive by itself easily with EoE protection.

As for RWZ ship raids, the Justice runs are usually very MM friendly since everyone rushes the middle of the ship as soon as they conjure up the GM and pwn him. Then herders mass all the rikti into the center of the ship and farm them en masse. As a MM, nothing is easier than sitting in the middle and letting the pets do all the work. Since there are usually a couple of bubblers and traps, having full mez protection and def capped pets without needed ST buffing makes it really easy for squishies and MMs to rack up xp/merits/inf.

Putting out a HVAS during the center defense works really well for MMs since you can go full BG mode and the pets will respond to the HVAS getting aggro and you can pretty much afk for dinner while they go to work and reap you vanguard merits. An average raid usually gets me 625 +/- 200 merits depending, but the HVAS usually puts me on the higher end, which is easily a net profit. If you have enough savvy players putting out HVAS then the merit bonanza is multiplied.


 

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I've never taken him to a Hami Raid, but I've used my bots/ff for Mothership raids on Virtue quite a bit. Once we take the center, he's helped provide a defensive position for the whole raid with Dispersion Bubble, a bubbled team, and bubbled bots. Then I can go afk for coffee when necessary with the bots laying waste to everything in my absence.

Once in a while I'll pull them back in when they drift too far away, but for the most part they're a fire-and-forget weapon, leaving me to concentrate on making sure everyone stays bubbled, and if necessary, has their HP bar topped off. I also get to pick and choose the priority targets for them as we go, sending them around after any stray Magus that wander in too close to the squishies. The lag doesn't really affect the bots' performance at all.


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