Idea for New Powerset(s): Munitions Control (and Assault)

I made this thread earlier on the suggestions board, but I figured I should try it here too to see if anyone likes it.

I was thinking earlier--there really isn't any Controller/Dominator Primary for 'Natural' characters outside of maybe psychics. But there are plenty of abilities that offer control through grenades and guns. Plus, it wouldn't be difficult to animate--most if not all of the animations already exist, and some of the powers already exist in other powersets.

Munitions Control:
Not gonna lie, this is mostly grenades. Besides Beanbag, there's not too many pre-existing shooting abilities that work on a Control Powerset.

Tier 1: Leg Shot - Ranged, Moderate DMG(Lethal), Foe: Immobilize, -SPD, -DEF
Name is self-explanatory, you shoot the foe in the leg and that stops for a little bit. It's an idea I had to re-use Slug's animation.

Tier 2: EMP Grenade - Ranged, Moderate DMG(Energy) Foe: Hold, -Regen
Modified variant of the EMP Grenade used by the Longbow Spec Ops, it doesn't normally deal damage.

--OR--

Tier 2: Cryo Freeze Ray - Ranged, Moderate DMG(Cold), Foe Hold
From Munitions Mastery, only more damaging.

Tier 3: Glue Grenade - Ranged (Targeted Area Over Effect), Foe: -Speed, -Recharge
Like the PPD Equalizer's Glue Grenade or Trick Arrows Glue Arrow--doesn't deal damage like other immob AoE's, but this one affects the ground and everything that walks on it, and not just the enemies currently targetted.

Tier 4: Beanbag - Ranged, Minor DMG(Smashing), Foe: Disorient
Like in AR/

--OR--

Tier 4: Taser - Ranged, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe: Disorient
Like in /Devices

Tier 5: Sleep Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Minor DMG(Smash), Foe Sleep
From Munitions Mastery

Tier 6: Flashbang Grenades - Ranged AoE, Foe: -Accuracy, -Defense, Disorient
From Spec Ops in the Mercs Powerset and PPD Ghosts

Tier 7: Tear Gas Grenade - Ranged AoE, Foe: Hold
From PPD Ghosts

--OR--

Tier 7: Covering Fire - Ranged, Cone, Minor DoT(Lethal), Foe: Hold
Using Heavy Bursts animation, you shoot alot to keep enemies from attacking you for the moment.

Tier 8: Seeker Drones - Summon Seekers, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Disorient, -DMG, -To-Hit, -Perception
From /Traps

Tier 9: Auto Turret - Build Turret: Ranged, Moderate Damage (Lethal)
From the PPD Equalizers, again. I figured this might be better because it's different than the Gun Drone /Devices already has. I figure this pet could have a lower recharge rate than normal, to make up for it's lack of movement. (I think it has a lack of movement, at least)

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Secondary: Munitions Assault
This is mainly AR/ and Wolf Spider/ abilities

Tier 1: Burst - Ranged, Moderate DoT(Lethal), Foe -DEF

Tier 2: Pummel - Melee, Minor Damage (Smashing), Foe: Disorient

Tier 3: Slug - Ranged, High DMG(Lethal), Foe Knockback

Tier 4: Bayonet - Melee, Moderate Damage over Time (Lethal/Smashing)

Tier 5: Poison Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -Resistance
Venom Grenade without the damage, pretty much. I figure this in lieu of Build Up or (more likely) Aim would make the secondary stand out more--Venom Grenade, while maybe not making you deal as much damage as Build Up, recharges faster and helps the whole team.

--OR--

Tier 5: Aim - Self +To-Hit, +DMG
Because people keep saying that having Poison Grenade would be oh-so-terrible in a Munitions assault set

--OR--

Tier 5: Surveillance - Ranged, Foe -Res(All), -DEF(All)
See above

Tier 6: Sniper Rifle - Sniper, Extreme DMG(Lethal), Foe Knockback


Tier 7: Heavy Burst - Ranged (Cone), High Damage over Time (Lethal), Foe: -Defense

Tier 8: M30 Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Moderate DMG(Lethal/Smash), Foe Knockback

Tier 9: Full Auto - Ranged (Cone), Superior DoT(Lethal), +Special

.....just make a Trap/AR Defender or AR/Trap Corr. If your not finding them *"Controlly"* enough......your doing it wrong.



I do like the idea and I'd totally play one if they gave Dom's guns and toys but my Trappers are awesome already =)

Well, this is supposed to focus more on control and less on debuffs. Except for the Venom Grenade bit.

Yea, nay?

Alot of these skills players don't have access too, at least on the control end.

instead of making it a control set, i would focus it a bit more on debuffs and then make it a feasible secondary for for corrs or primary for defenders to synergize with AR as it currently stands

basically what im saying is i would rather see a remake of TA but using an AR as the weapon instead of a bow so theres less redraw issues with AR

Meh, Corrupters/Defenders already have Traps.

But, like I said before, Dominator's don't have any 'natural' control set. This would fix that.

Sets like this have been proposed before...I like the idea personally. I think there should be more natural options across the board for all AT's. Right now if you want to be a gadgetry, tech, or science type your options are limited.

I would also argue you could go Solider of Arachnos for a "gadgetry type" controller.

Nothing's been around that would allow a Controller/Dominator level of control with a rifle, though.

Actually I was looking over several of the Assault sets when I wrote this up.

Almost all of them have 3 AoE (Either Cone, TAoE, or PBAoE) attacks in them--heck, Thorny Assault has 4.

Plus, the only reason Venom Grenade is included is as a replacement for Build Up, like I said.

Edit: I'd put a PBAoE AR/ move in, but there aren't any.

People were saying on the Suggestion Board that there may be too many Grenade animation powers (Even though I wanted the M30 Grenade animation--fired from the rifle, not thrown), so I changed one and provided some alternates to others

Or, heck, give a suggestion to a new Single Target ability using a (or a slightly modified version of a) pre-existing animation.

Yes please to gadget doms.