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Stick together? Bah! Sticking together is boring.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
thats still terrible how many times does it take for your team to not stick together
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Dude...you died 121 times thats terrible. and sheild scrappers get destroyed in a STF considering recluse has capped To-Hit and will wipe you clean of the floor. if you want to do this with all scrappers make sure its not a master run. and make sure your all setted out.
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Edit: Who's to say they weren't softcapped? You need 75 def for recluse.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
thats still terrible how many times does it take for your team to not stick together and also Nightmerr you really need to Softcap your Defenses its so Freaking ez on a SR
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Okay for one recluse will kill you no matter how much Def you have.you need a Res based toon to tank him.... second there is nothing fun about dying 121 times.
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I tank him with a blaster, preferably. My blaster is resist/regen based for mitigation. However, I know it is the 75% plus defense I sport when tanking him that keeps me alive more than the resistance. Kill the blue tower first (not only will that make it so you only need 45% D to cap, he will also attack dramatically slower). 75% resistance (the scrapper cap) is modestly helpful, but if that is all you got, LR is going to kill you quickly and repeatedly. 90% on tankers (and now brutes) is noticeable but still not enough on its own, you are way better off stacking that with 75% plus defense (and/or healing, of course, but that is not available in high quantities on an all scrapper run).|
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Okay for one recluse will kill you no matter how much Def you have.you need a Res based toon to tank him.... second there is nothing fun about dying 121 times.
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When tanking LR it is good having an auto-hit aura with a debuff. That narrows it down to willpower and shields (Edit: although with APPs, I have been wondering if Caltrops would work, but I have not tested that yet) . I think a well built WP with their Confront power could do admirably. A well built Shields user does not need their confront power and I have never seen an unsupported scrapper that is better at tanking LR than a Shield.
Dying 121 times is hilarity and great fun all around. It is fine that you prefer not to. Bring tougher scrappers and play "smarter". As for me, I am more than merry to die, die again.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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This. If I go an entire TF(excluding master runs) without dieing that means either I'm getting buffed to insane levels or I'm not trying hard enough.
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
As for me, I am more than merry to die, die again.
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Emm... no, all of this. Admittedly, dying isn't fun, but they had FUN while dying.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Okay for one recluse will kill you no matter how much Def you have.you need a Res based toon to tank him.... second there is nothing fun about dying 121 times.
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Did i really just read That your blaster can tank LR?...if so i want video of that.
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It isn't hard, all it takes is 75% defense to floor his tohit while the blue tower's up... starting from scratch that's less than 3 large purple inspirations.|
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Did i really just read That your blaster can tank LR?...if so i want video of that.
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It doesn't take resist to tank LR... I've been on STF's with most tanker primaries and no tanks at all. I've seen Ice tanks do it without real issue with a good defense build; Shield tanks can do it with decent defenses. I've seen several scrappers handle the job and been on a few where we had a force field controller and everyone had Assault/Tactics/Maneuvers from leadership where we ignored LR and took out the towers while he danced around and couldn't hit us. (We tossed RI on him to prevent pet spawns).
I can easily believe a blaster could do the job with 75% defenses.
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okay lets say you have your blaster with 75% Def using insp of course. once you start tanking you might live for a few shots but when he hits you which he will its guaranteed he will hit you atleast once every 10 hits. he will hit you for more than Blaster Hp cap.but you prob wont even have that. you will die and your healer if you have one will die and he will wipe the rest of your team b4 you even get the blue tower down.
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One shot code prevents death. I am capped on HPs, resists, and defense thanks to my teammates (or inspires/accolades depending on team make-up). Never did it without someone who can heal, although we have done it without empathy a few times. We have done one without FF, but that is not preferable. In the many 7 defender - 1 blaster STFs we have run, I have died twice against Lord Recluse and there have been a few defender deaths (more from the combination of a Recluse AoE, the flyer, and all the spawns that ambush you as you take the towers down). We always run it as a master, but have only succeeded twice (of course we don't really try to succeed, instead we go as fast as we can on +2). Our best time is 54 minutes, the most trouble is the vine room.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
okay lets say you have your blaster with 75% Def using insp of course. once you start tanking you might live for a few shots but when he hits you which he will its guaranteed he will hit you atleast once every 10 hits. he will hit you for more than Blaster Hp cap.but you prob wont even have that. you will die and your healer if you have one will die and he will wipe the rest of your team b4 you even get the blue tower down.
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
and also Nightmerr you really need to Softcap your Defenses its so Freaking ez on a SR
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Well, I didn't die 121 times. I'm going to totally guess and say five times? No real idea. I wasn't counting. Didn't really care. Hell, I brought my Regen to the all scrapper ITF I did BECAUSE I thought it would be challenging what with him having no defense debuff resistance. My Super Reflexes would have been boring.|
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Dude...you died 121 times thats terrible. and sheild scrappers get destroyed in a STF considering recluse has capped To-Hit and will wipe you clean of the floor. if you want to do this with all scrappers make sure its not a master run. and make sure your all setted out.
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Look, part of the reason for doing an all Scrapper task force is to just cut loose, and not worry about squishies, and not worry about doing anything "right", and just kill or be killed. So what if you get separated from your group, dive into a pile of enemies you don't think you can handle, and it turns out you were right? It's just a trip from the hospital.
Play MoSTF if you want. Play right if you want. I was just there for the Scrapping.
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Originally Posted by Werner
Look, part of the reason for doing an all Scrapper task force is to just cut loose, and not worry about squishies, and not worry about doing anything "right", and just kill or be killed. So what if you get separated from your group, dive into a pile of enemies you don't think you can handle, and it turns out you were right? It's just a trip from the hospital.
Play MoSTF if you want. Play right if you want. I was just there for the Scrapping. |
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I took a little break from the game because it was getting a little stale, but I didn't so much miss the game, but I missed just scrapping. It's why you do an all Scrapper anything. How many can you kill before they kill you.
I've never done an all Scrapper STF, but when I do I'll be hoping we get more than 121 deaths so then I can sit back and think, "We were ruthless."
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Originally Posted by Werner
Well, I didn't die 121 times. I'm going to totally guess and say five times? No real idea. I wasn't counting. Didn't really care. Hell, I brought my Regen to the all scrapper ITF I did BECAUSE I thought it would be challenging what with him having no defense debuff resistance. My Super Reflexes would have been boring.
Look, part of the reason for doing an all Scrapper task force is to just cut loose, and not worry about squishies, and not worry about doing anything "right", and just kill or be killed. So what if you get separated from your group, dive into a pile of enemies you don't think you can handle, and it turns out you were right? It's just a trip from the hospital. Play MoSTF if you want. Play right if you want. I was just there for the Scrapping. |
I was in it for the thrill of having eight enforcers-of-violence go through some difficult content. I could've brought my Broadsword/Shield Defense Scrapper and died less, but I didn't really care about that. I brought my Fire/Fire Scrapper instead and put down some serious firepower.
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Pfft, 121 deaths is weak.
Some folks I know ran a Doctor Quarterfield taskforce...at +4!
Was like 11 hours, and 506 deaths.
Even without all scrappers, was glorious! Fortunately, I stayed well away from THAT one.
I would like to try an all melee STF.
2 Scrapper
2 Tankers
2 Brutes
2 Stalkers (yes u read this right...lol)
Since Tankers/Brutes can get Darkest Night and Quicksand and the other AT's get more APP/PPP powers that can make it doable.
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Originally Posted by Big_Soto
Since Tankers/Brutes can get Darkest Night and Quicksand and the other AT's get more APP/PPP powers that can make it doable.
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(but sounds like fun too, I have a stalker, I can snipe-pull the patrons, woo hoo!)
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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I was thinking about running an all melee STF or LGTF actually, though not that AT quantity specific. |
Originally Posted by Big_Soto
I would like to try an all melee STF.
2 Scrapper 2 Tankers 2 Brutes 2 Stalkers (yes u read this right...lol) Since Tankers/Brutes can get Darkest Night and Quicksand and the other AT's get more APP/PPP powers that can make it doable. |
And yeah, the point of most all scrapper/tank/brute TFs/SFs is to just stab, punch, bludgeon and kick everything till it's dead. Death is just a minor delay in more of the same.
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Amen one of the funnest stf's I ever did point blank
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Originally Posted by Werner
Well, I didn't die 121 times. I'm going to totally guess and say five times? No real idea. I wasn't counting. Didn't really care. Hell, I brought my Regen to the all scrapper ITF I did BECAUSE I thought it would be challenging what with him having no defense debuff resistance. My Super Reflexes would have been boring.
Look, part of the reason for doing an all Scrapper task force is to just cut loose, and not worry about squishies, and not worry about doing anything "right", and just kill or be killed. So what if you get separated from your group, dive into a pile of enemies you don't think you can handle, and it turns out you were right? It's just a trip from the hospital. Play MoSTF if you want. Play right if you want. I was just there for the Scrapping. |
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thats still terrible how many times does it take for your team to not stick together and also Nightmerr you really need to Softcap your Defenses its so Freaking ez on a SR