Fiery Armor still Crapolious?

This. Fiery Embrace is like Incendiary Ammo for your fists. I love using it and watching the extra third number accompany my attacks. Burn is a new amazing beast in and of itself; it's like an AoE non-immobilizing Midnight Grasp.

Apparently I am horrible at making builds for SS/FA in Mid's. Just how exactly are your IOs set in such a way to get that much resistance in anything but Fire, can you post your Mid's build? I can soft cap my S/L defense with 50% resistance but I can't figure out how to get any of the other resistances any where close to your levels. Heck, I just checked my stone brute and you're rocking more energy resist and an epic ton more in psionic resist (though that's stones weakness)

Oops, my mistake. I was working on a pvp build, and then forgot to switch the button for it. I had my pvp button still turned on, so the numbers were before DR'd in pvp. Here's the actual pve numbers:

S/L defense - 32.5%

S/L resistance - 52.8%
Fire resistance - 90%
Cold resistance - 24%
Energy resistance - 36.5%
Negative resistance - 38.4%
Toxic/Psionic resistance - 0%

I find that on my SS/FA with Footstomp and the S/L defense, the survivality is quite good. Comparing to my elec/sd brute who is in the ~50% defense range, you do have to watch the HP a little more carefully; however, with recent change to FE and Burn, my SS/FA seem to mow down mobs a bit faster than my elec/sd now.

I totally agree. This set really shines with IOs.

New Consume = Problem Solved

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic. Well done.

The same is true for every defense-based secondary, really.

On topic: I don't get, nor have I ever understood, the perception about Fire. You can't just run in and stay alive like you can with some other armor sets, but that simply means you need to play differently. Crank out damage. Kite mobs. Use inspirations. The set is really good when it's played and built well.

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All that chin-scratching over mitigation... and you went the hard route...

I still think stone/fire brute would be a better choice, but hey, taking all bets!

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• 2:1 Odds he gives up in one week
• 3:1 Odds he breaks after a month
• 10:1 Odds he spites us all and takes it to 50, sets it out, and makes Dechs Kaison cry being the new super-awesome tank on the block.
• 20:1 Odds that he makes a "Fire Armor Sucks, It Can't Tank Anything" thread after 50ing it, setting it out, and makes a video.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic. Well done.

GAAAH. You're just making my isolation from him even worse. Every other Brute I played was good, but he's the one I plotted on and schemed for before creating and was The One on paper in terms of awesomeness.

I've currently moved onto a Broadsword/Fire scrapper, in between other alts, but he's still a lowbie.

I imagine, heavy into theory here but I imagine, that if you put a Force Feedback +Rech proc into Tremor, you could have Consume back almost ALWAYS when you need it. Force Feedback proc has a chance to fire on every target Tremor hits, making it a highly likely candidate for firing everytime you use it - and boosting Consume enough that you could effectively solve your endurance issues. My Kat/FA scrapper has ~3.2eps, but gets 5.2 when he uses consume. It's the shizz.

Seeing as Consume not only gives you endurance back per hit, it also gives you a buff to your recov and resistance to endurance drain per target, you could be a monster.

The more I talk about it, the more I really, really, REALLY want to try it.

I'm getting a little too excited about this.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic. Well done.

I'll put a fiver on the 2:1 odds. I really do hate tanks BUT... I found bruising + sands of mu + blazing aura to be nasty on bosses last night. We'll see. Until I-19 comes out and I can start gearing BZB back up with incarnate stuff, I've got nothin but time.

Hell, I recreated Celmor the Peacebringer last night as well, and my hatred of PBs runs as deeply as my hatred of FA's inherent weakness.

got my fire/fire tank to 50 and he does just fine. usually solos at +2/+8 and just melts large groups with all the AoE attacks available. and that was before the changes to burn, still working on how I will respec to finally put it back in my build.

but right now his main numbers are:

def - s/l 37.8; e/ne 19.6

resist
s/l 69.2
fire 90
cold 31.7
nrg 44.5
neg 50.8

obviously, he has a hole for tox and psi damage but also has positional defenses of 30, 18 and 16 for melee, ranged and AoE which gives some protection. and now that we can get pvp recipes through hv merits, I need to take a look at sneaking the 3% def gladiator in somewhere and will be over 40% def to s/l with good resists and a great heal.

but more importantly, he's fun. he has no problems surviving and puts down mobs plenty fast.

I'm itching for i19 as well. Alpha Slot pushes my sorta-softcapped Shield/Fire brute into very-softcap ranges, while my Kat/FA will likely see Endredux and Recharge across the board.

Anyway I'm dropping a Benjamin on the 20:1.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic. Well done.

Absolutely, I did the same with my tank and it made a big change in how sturdy he felt. I probably should at stopped at the 30% defense to S/L and popped purples when needed, but I went a little crazy and then softcapped him and everything was cake after that.

Not a bloody chance.

I'll put a rare IO of choice on the 3:1.

I wouldn't worry about Toxic on a Fiery Aura Tanker. The set has the best Toxic resistance I can think of in any personal defense set of any AT. Heck, Brute/Scrapper Fiery Aura beat any Tanker primary other than Fiery Aura that I can think of. A stackable Toxic resistance buff on a 20 second cooldown with SO's is made of win. That completely ignores your substantial defense layer. Only problem with Toxic is that many attacks that do Toxic damage also have -recharge, which is murder to Fiery Aura.

In addition to the new Consume, there's also the i19 Incarnate Alpha slot. One of the ways to slot it was with End reduction, and of course it's global.

Um, Dark Armor?

Dark armor, on a tank, only ends up with 31% resistance to toxic.

Fiery Aura matches that with one application of Healing Flames. Two stacks of healing flames beats that, and it's not hard to stack three times even.

Fair enough.

My current Kat/FA can stack it 4 times LOL

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic. Well done.