You didn't mention what primary you have, but if it's Invulnerability, you'll only see the defense from Invinc when you're in melee range of at least one foe.
My Characters
Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012
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Finduilas is right on here! The def numbers match up when I am in melee range of one baddie. But the dam res numbers are still way off from what Mid's says they should be.|
Originally Posted by Finduilas
You didn't mention what primary you have, but if it's Invulnerability, you'll only see the defense from Invinc when you're in melee range of at least one foe.
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Mids says: S/L 90%, E/N 54.6%, F/C 55.8%, Toxic 54.6%, Psi 70.5%
In Game says: S/L 90%, E/N 31.07%, F/C 32.33%, Tox 31.07%, Psi 0.00%
Am I missing something or is Mid's off?
Here's my build:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Evolutionman: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam(3), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(3), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(13)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(15), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 4: Haymaker -- P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(7), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(31), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(42), Dct'dW-Heal(43), Dct'dW-Rchg(43)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam(43)
Level 10: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(13), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(34), Mocking-Rchg(46)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(34)
Level 14: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(37), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(37)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-End%(21)
Level 22: Knockout Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(46), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 24: Kick -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 28: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(29), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 30: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 32: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33), Aegis-ResDam(33)
Level 35: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(36), Aegis-ResDam(36)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(40)
Level 41: Hurl -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam(45)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 0: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 2.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 18% Defense(Smashing)
- 18% Defense(Lethal)
- 16.8% Defense(Fire)
- 16.8% Defense(Cold)
- 16.1% Defense(Energy)
- 16.1% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 12.4% Defense(Melee)
- 11.4% Defense(Ranged)
- 11.8% Defense(AoE)
- 3.6% Max End
- 35% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 25% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 10% FlySpeed
- 196.8 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
- 10% JumpHeight
- 10% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 4.5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery
- 60% (4.69 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
- 25% RunSpeed
Set Bonuses:
Steadfast Protection
(Resist Physical Damage)
- 3% Defense(All)
(Resist Physical Damage)
- 5% RunSpeed
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Jab)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Temp Invulnerability)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
(Haymaker)
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
(Haymaker)
- 8% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
(Dull Pain)
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Unyielding)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
(Taunt)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Health)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
(Invincibility)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Stamina)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
(Knockout Blow)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
(Knockout Blow)
- 2.5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
(Kick)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Rage)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)
(Tough Hide)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Resist Energies)
- 5% RunSpeed
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Resist Elements)
- 5% RunSpeed
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Foot Stomp)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
- 42.2 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
(Foot Stomp)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
(Hurl)
- 2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
(Tough)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
(Weave)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
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When I open your build, I see 90% S/L, 31.1% E/NE, 32.3% C/F Resistance. Toxic: 31.1%, and Psi is 0%. So, it might be that you're using an older version of Mid's?
Edit -> Yup, you're using version 1.6 something. The current version is 1.8. Remove the current version, and download the latest.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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Hmm, those look like PvP resistance numbers to me. Are you sure it's set to PvE not PvP?
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Originally Posted by Republic
Finduilas is right on here! The def numbers match up when I am in melee range of one baddie. But the dam res numbers are still way off from what Mid's says they should be.
Mids says: S/L 90%, E/N 54.6%, F/C 55.8%, Toxic 54.6%, Psi 70.5% In Game says: S/L 90%, E/N 31.07%, F/C 32.33%, Tox 31.07%, Psi 0.00% |
My Characters
Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012
PvP mode does change things but I've found a few probs with Mids. However they come about I don't know but to pick on one thing I had a res set only accepting dam and kb enhancements somewhere. I just change my own and don't update.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Aett has the right answer! Apparently I was running 1.6. I updated to 1.8 and the numbers all match up now.|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
When I open your build, I see 90% S/L, 31.1% E/NE, 32.3% C/F Resistance. Toxic: 31.1%, and Psi is 0%. So, it might be that you're using an older version of Mid's?
Edit -> Yup, you're using version 1.6 something. The current version is 1.8. Remove the current version, and download the latest. |
Now then the question begs, is it possible for me to get anywhere close to the numbers I had with 1.6??!!
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I bet 1.6 defaulted to having PvP Mode turned on and 1.8 defaults to PvP Mode off. It's the only way you were hitting 70.5% psi res.|
Originally Posted by Republic
Aett has the right answer! Apparently I was running 1.6. I updated to 1.8 and the numbers all match up now.
Now then the question begs, is it possible for me to get anywhere close to the numbers I had with 1.6??!! |
So, the answer is no. Sorry!
[edit: To be clear, even with 1.6 you couldn't get those values in PvE.]
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That explanation seems to make sense to me.|
Originally Posted by Sarrate
I bet 1.6 defaulted to having PvP Mode turned on and 1.8 defaults to PvP Mode off. It's the only way you were hitting 70.5% psi res.
So, the answer is no. Sorry! [edit: To be clear, even with 1.6 you couldn't get those values in PvE.] |
Thanks to everyone who helped out this novice Mid's user!
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Still, my solution fixed it. Therefore, I win! |
Originally Posted by Sarrate
I bet 1.6 defaulted to having PvP Mode turned on and 1.8 defaults to PvP Mode off. It's the only way you were hitting 70.5% psi res.
So, the answer is no. Sorry! [edit: To be clear, even with 1.6 you couldn't get those values in PvE.] |
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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Of course, it would have also have been fixed by simply clicking on the PvE/PvP button... |
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Still, my solution fixed it. Therefore, I win!
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My Characters
Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012
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Ah well, we may as well let him enjoy his feeling of victory. After all as the saying goes, even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then. |
Originally Posted by Finduilas
Of course, it would have also have been fixed by simply clicking on the PvE/PvP button...
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COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
There is a problem with Defense Debuff Resistance, at least on scrappers.
From the scrapper forum
Jak
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Katie V reply|
Katie V the problem is not how to reach the DDR cap, the problem is Mids saying a build will reach the cap and finding the in game numbers substancially lower than Mids Predicted. The build I am reporting on was shown by Mids to have 95.5% DDR, and as you taught me in a prior thread anything over 95% is wasted, so that is all I built for. This freed slots for other powers. The problem appears to be in the two powers with large bonuses and multiple resistances. Those being Focused Senses and Evasion. I would appreciate it if some other scrapper builders would double check the DDR total presented by Mids for the exact same IOs as a live build vs the actual in game DDR % they are getting with that build to see if it just me or is endemic to the I17 and I18 Mids. |
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It appears to be Mids. Looking at my build: Evasion: 21.86 actual, 23.9 Mids Focused Senses: 21.81 actual, 23.6 Mids Focused Fighting: 21.35 actual, 21.8 Mids Lucky: 10.81 actual, 11.2 Mids Agile: 10.90 actual, 11.8 Mids Dodge: 10.80 actual, 11.1 Mids It looks like Mids is not applying ED when computing DDR numbers. |
I would be interested in having some tankers also check their live build vs Mids to see if this is a problem in other archtypes with DDR.
Thanks,
Jak
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Hey, I find truffles all the time under my bath mat!|
Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome
Ah well, we may as well let him enjoy his feeling of victory. After all as the saying goes, even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then.
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But hey, having the latest version of Mid's, versus one that is about two issues old, is always a good thing. He couldn't make a character on that that used the new powersets, for instance.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
I put a Mid's build together that showed my toon being def capped for s/l, f/c, and e/n. But after respecing, my in game numbers come up a few points off across the board.
Is anyone else getting this discrepancy?