Union Cathedral of Pain recon run 1

I'll be up for the next one aswell. Realy want to get the badge on Brim so I can offer some of my other chars for it in the future. (Not willing to offer others till she has the badge as she is my only badge char)

I'm up for more Tsumiju.
Next time though I'd like to add. Everyone who joins in, bring your shivans.
If all spawn a shivan (24 total) on the last 3 minions hopefully we will have enough Rad power to wear Rularuu down. And in case we do not bring him down asap, have the debuffers of more -regen hit those buffs before shields are up.

Quite right, I think anyone with -regen capabilities should hit him with those as soon as his shields go down, and again 35 seconds later. We need the teams massacring those spawns as fast as possible though to get the most benefit!

Wasnt in UK yesterday unfortunately, and was unaware of this trial* attempt.

However if you do decide to get another one rolling Tsu, I will gladly attend it.

My apology's dude.

Thats ok, will gladly get you into future raids! I'll definately get more rolling, I'm more confident than ever that we'll nail it!

Will there be another CoP attempt on Saturday 11th? Sign me up if so . What would be best to bring? Got a level 50 Grav/FF troller, a level 50 Elec /EM tank or a heroic lvl 49 (atm) bots/traps mm that come to mind plus a bs/ regen scrapper that could be useful.

Really want to take him down this time.

In case it helps, I couldn't help noticing the list of -regen powers is missing Thermal's Heat Exhaustion power, adding more possibilties to the mix.

Happy Hunting

I do want to get one rolling this week of course, I am going to be sorting out (or trying to) additional people to bridge the teams into the trial via the SG base I've setup.

As the AV is our biggest challenge, damage output and -regen capability have to be our priorities at this time. We have shown consistency dealing with the Pillars, so I'm confident that if we can get the strategy and mix right for the AV, the pillars we can overcome by tactics.

Right..'Automatrix' bots/traps mm is now level 50, heroic and in the process of gearing up for CoP. Poison trap enhanced for recharge, shivans, amy's ward and a heavy acqiured, as well as anuclear payload wb nuke. Will try and get other 2 sometime soon. Currently sg less so could possobly bridge but my pc struggles with lots ppl on same map, so maybe I'd be suffering from too much lag to lead a team. Anything else i couls acquire between now an the trial?

Well suggestion for the next CoP Attempt (wont be here for the weekend) would be:
24 players everyone with the temp power Envenomed Dagger (-regen 10 secs).
24 players with shivans
A few of the players (ice troller/defenders) with Benumb, dark def/corr with Howling Twilight.

In the second room:
We take out the cube minions.
2-4 casts Envenomed Dagger during the 45 secs. All have casts Shivans.
2-3 thows chemical nuke and the rest hammers Rularuu.
If Rularuu seems to survive into the next round. Those with Benumb and Howling Twilight casts their debuffs just before the shields go up.

When shields are up (bubble forms around him)... all moves away from the center and hits their cubes.
This way the raid force do not have to fight both Rularuu and the rest of the minions at the same time (Rularuu throwing energy bolts at us while we fight the minions are not good).

Take out the minions and throw the -regen, a new set of shivans etc. Repeat what was done over.

Hopefully you should take the big sucker down.

Good luck on the attempt

@Thyristor: Your character is more than welcome in my SG, bridging characters don't have to be team leaders of course so I hope that you'll give me a shout ingame and I'll invite accordingly!

@Lady Arete: Having discussed tactics with @Alpha-One over on the US servers, he noted that there seems to be a cap on -Regen effects. I'd be keen to get that data confirmed, as we might be chucking in too much -Regen and not enough damage. We'll just have to try it and see!

Given delays this week, I would prefer a full week's preperation for the raid, therefore I propose that the 25th September, be our next attempt.

The maximum regen rate for AVs and monsters is 2000%. The minimum is 0.

Source

Well, -2000 should put him at 0% regen. He states that it was "well over" -2000, but I don't know by how much.

It may also be that the CoP AV has more regen than any previously encountered AV. It certainly seems like he does since I have never seen anything else regen as quickly, but I have no hard data to back me up. But if he did have more regen, say 3000%, than you would need -3000% to get him to 0%

It is not necessary to get him (or any other) AV to 0 in order to kill him, although it makes it significantly easier. You just have to out DPS his regen, taking into account his little bubble vacation time.

In my experience, it's not just that the AV has incredible regen and an insurmountable force field, it's that those rularu mobs keeping coming and they hit hard and slice through most defense and resitance because of the insane accuracy of the eyeballs and the psy damage of the wisps.

I have seen teams make slow progress in denting the health bar, but then they have a few key team members die and it ends up in a total, or almost total team wipe.

A few Dark defenders or corrupters can make a huge difference in this trial. The extreme tohit debuff, exceptional psi resistance in shadowfall, and the awesome team rez are certainly very welcome additions against rularu.

Mass confusion from illusion, plant, or electric controllers and doms are also excellent powers to bring to this event. Make those nasty rularu do the work for you and kill each other! Some players may also have the Nectar temp power from the Valentines Event.

Another frequently overlooked temp power is the psi bomb available from the RWZ vanguard merit vendor. It's a 16 target AoE that does significant psi damage, has a mag 3 stun, and a 1 in 3 chance of a mag 3 confusion.

I also recently rediscovered that mind link provides 30% unenhanced resistance to psi in addition to its defense and tohit boosts. A widow on each team, while not essential, would be very helpful.

As would any dark armor or dark miasma character, which are also very resistant to psi.

We were talking earlier in the week about taking lots of Dark based characters for some of their -Regen powers as well, its just a shame that this trial is so specific given the numbers we are up against lol

Quick Update:

Next attempt will be Thursday 23rd September

Suggested equipment / checklist for all attendees are:

• Vanguard HVAS
• Envenomed Dagger (optional)
• Characters with -Regen or resistance debuffs.
• High damage characters such as scrappers/blasters
• A couple of tanks with some real determination and a few empaths that make Jesus jealous in the healing stakes.

All this talk about darks to go in there makes me think it is time for a red side attempt too...

Anyone interested?

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That is all.

Well we had a successful run tonight guys which marks the first in hopefully a long line of raids against Rularuu in all his cheapness.

We really struggled with the pillars, which was far from normal, however moving people across really seemed to help with the situation we were in and once we adjusted for the pillar shields going out of sync, we nailed it.

We then went damage heavy against the Red version of the AV and were successful against him with less than 5 minutes to go!

My thanks to @Soul Storm and Tame Dragon for bridging in the teams, as well as everyone that took part.

I am sad to report however that flints got disconnected at the vital moment and an effort to reinvite went with the error " @Flints does not exist, is hidden, or is not online at the moment."

Gutted about that given all your effort, however all the more reason to kick that fat cheap broken AV's backside AGAIN!