Farming with a Fire Kin, questions

Yes, after 2+ years, i guess it is time for me to spawn a Fire/Kin toon to farm a bit.

It obviously works, because I have seen it many times, but I still wonder how I should get started. My SG is helping me out quite a bit, and I have made it to 22 in just a few nights of play.

Now my question, when I get to 50, I wont have the cash to pimp him out. I was thiking that I should go /Earth for the Rock Armor, and then stick with a Freakshow map. But how do I survive? The stun is on a 90 second timer, which is quite long, so that wont hold them off. Do the Imps draw enough aggro, or will I still get the bulk of the aggro?

Should I conentrate on gettng recharge via LotG? or should I try for a defense build?

I plan on taking Weave and Manoevers in my build, as well as Smoke.

Suggestions would be appreciated.

Well, you are correct on the Stone Mastery bit. The armor and Earth's Embrace help with survival a ton, add to that that fissure is argueably the best AoE in the controller APPs and that Seismic Smash makes farming with bosses turned on very viable and its hands down the best.

As for a build, I recomend grabbing weave as you planned, along with stone armor and Combat Jumping. Slot the 3% defense Steadfast Protection IO in toughs default slot, then just build for Smashing and Lethal defense. That should take care of your survival, at least to where you wont need Flashfires/Cinders for every spawn.

As for a farm map, you dont want freaks. They both deal energy damage and only drop tech salvage (To my knowledge). I would recomend either Unai Kemens, Axis Amerika map. Though Maria Jenkins has a good one that also works, with Battle Maiden Warriors.

I think that covers most of your questions, if I missed something just say so.

Do a search on "fire/kin" and you'll get a lot of good (and some bad) advice.

I'm in the s/l def, stone, proc'd hot feet camp....+2 and +3's melt like butter. +4's melt like cheese so I usually till on those settings.

I cloned War_Ad's build and it's been nothing but a inf printing machine.

see i dont have any defense on my farmer..im all purpled out and have never needed to go the defense route.

id be willing to bet i can clear faster then defensive builds.but hey "soft cap" is the new it thing so do what you must

Bosses aren't worth the time. I have yet to see a reason where solo fighting bosses comes with a significant enough reward to justify they extra time.

As the OP stated "I wont have the cash to pimp him out". I was able to get my Fire/Kin up, running and farming with just SOs. I went with a purely resistance base, farming S/L mobs. I had around 60% resistance to S/L and used Psi Tornado with a FF proc in it to get me extra recharge. When I got extra monies, I bought a KB IO and dropped accro. Later on, when I had about 500 mil, I decided to IO him for +recharge. I now have him as a Fire/Kin/Psi. If you want a cheap build, go for +rech. Pop an FF proc in Psi tornado (it pretty much procs on ever mob). Going the way of /Psi instead of /Earth also give you Mez protection with Indomitable Will. Which even with no purples, you can still have it pretty much perma. I personally like to be able to not get stunned, rather than having to heal when attacks are recharging.

I'm not saying its the only way, I have seen defense fire/kins farm at +4's. I applaud them and tell them nice job. I prefer not having to spend money to make money.

You can pretty cheaply do a soft capped build too. Even the +3% defense IO isn't that expensive. Since you're doing +defense, you don't use any purple recipes. A high recharge build costs more. Capped defenses is mez protection in its own way too. One -Knockback IO is a must though no matter what. But to each their own.

I guess it depends on what you're farming and how you farm them. I have a +3 farm (sometimes I go +4) using a high rech and damage build. Once you get them all stunned and immobilized, they're toast and plus I rarely have to resummon dead monkeys. Defensive builds, while safe, is just too slow.

Not really, you can softcap SL a Fire/Kin and still pretty easily get 70/80% recharge into the build without too much effort. 50% at least without purples.

This is what I am running atm. Again I want to stress: this is not the best and only way to build a fire/kin, but it is how I do it, and I can farm pretty well, and do it at an enjoyably fast pace. Notice the absence of purples. Posi's and the Basilisk's are the most expensive things in the build.

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Dmg-I(5)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Acc-I(11)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(17), Posi-Dmg/Rng(31), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), GravAnch-Hold%(34)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Range-I(A)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow(43), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(43), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow(43), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(15), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(15), Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 18: Cinders -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-EndMod(21)
Level 22: Hot Feet -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(23), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(27), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(27), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ImpSkn-Status(31)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Krma-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), Aegis-ResDam(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), FrcFbk-Rechg%(50)
Level 49: Speed Boost -- Run-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 6: Ninja Run

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Nerfed boss farm xp? Which farms are you running? Besides, if you're running with a Fire/Kin, it's probably more effective to turn bosses off if you're farming regular mobs.