A Newb Question


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Hello,

I just started playing a couple weeks ago, and although i have about 100 questions this one seems to be the burning one. Lets say i have a level 50 toon (I don't yet), and i have slotted and enhanced his powers with pve in mind. If i respec him for pvp, is my pve build gone? And if so, are the enhancements i had for the old spec gone as well?
Or will I have both builds that i can switch between depending on what im doing in the game at that moment?

Sorry to ask what is probably a stupid question (it feels like it is)

Also.......CoH/CoV is awesome (i wish i would have started playing it 5 years ago) I'm trying to get my gaming buds to stop smoking the warcrack pipe (like i finally did) and come play a far superior game. I hope Going Rogue (I totally pre ordered it) brings many old players back, and many new players to, what is now... my new obsession


 

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Originally Posted by Fremlin View Post
If i respec him for pvp, is my pve build gone? And if so, are the enhancements i had for the old spec gone as well?
Or will I have both builds that i can switch between depending on what im doing in the game at that moment?
It depends on whether you do a respec or a second build.

If you respec, your enhancements all get unslotted, but after you have picked your powers and slotted them, you get a third screen with all your old enhancements and a chance to reslot all your enhancements. You can keep up to 10 old enhancements through a respec (using the enhancement tray) and any enhancements you do not use or keep will get resold for cost (though IOs "cost" is much lower than market value; generally you should only shed TO/DO/SOs this way).

If you do a second build, your first build keeps all its powers, slots, and enhancements as is, and your second build starts from level 1 with no enhancements at all. You level up that build just as if you had gained all those levels without visiting a trainer, and then must purchase a second set of enhancements to enhance it.

If you do the second build route, you can switch between the two builds, swapping the two complete sets of powers, slots and enhancements, at any trainer. There is a 30 minute cooldown on this swap, to prevent some exploits that might otherwise occur (when you switch builds, every cooldown is reset. If you could swap faster, you could bypass intentionally long cooldowns.)

Hope that helps!


 

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Originally Posted by Fremlin View Post
Lets say i have a level 50 toon (I don't yet), and i have slotted and enhanced his powers with pve in mind. If i respec him for pvp, is my pve build gone? And if so, are the enhancements i had for the old spec gone as well?
Or will I have both builds that i can switch between depending on what im doing in the game at that moment?

Sorry to ask what is probably a stupid question (it feels like it is)
You have two options.
1) Visit a trainer and switch to your second build, training, enhancing or respecing as desired. This will leave your first build intact.
Benefit: Able to switch back at the trainer later.
Problem: Enhancing two builds costs twice as much.

2) Respec, which will completely overwrite your first build.
Cheaper, as you can reuse most of the enhancements, keep ten in your pocket to resell at the market and cash in the rest.


Also, glad you are enjoying the game.


 

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Thx..... thats exactly what i wanted to know......u kickass dude


 

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Originally Posted by Fremlin View Post
I just started playing a couple weeks ago, and although i have about 100 questions this one seems to be the burning one. Lets say i have a level 50 toon (I don't yet), and i have slotted and enhanced his powers with pve in mind. If i respec him for pvp, is my pve build gone? And if so, are the enhancements i had for the old spec gone as well?
Or will I have both builds that i can switch between depending on what im doing in the game at that moment?
There are no dedicated pvp or pve builds in this game. Every character, though, after reaching level 10 has access to two builds that can be used for whatever purpose. You can switch between them every (IIRC) 15 minutes at a trainer, and they can have different powers, and each has their own sets of enhancements (set bonuses & globals from one build have no impact on the other). A lot of people use one of the two builds for a PvP build, but it's not required, and it won't automatically switch upon entering a PvP zone. You also respec the two builds individually.

I hope that rambling mess was clear. You can read the ParagonWiki article on multiple builds for more information. ParagonWiki is a great source of information about most all aspects of the game.


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Originally Posted by Fremlin View Post
Hello,

I just started playing a couple weeks ago, and although i have about 100 questions this one seems to be the burning one. Lets say i have a level 50 toon (I don't yet), and i have slotted and enhanced his powers with pve in mind. If i respec him for pvp, is my pve build gone? And if so, are the enhancements i had for the old spec gone as well?
Or will I have both builds that i can switch between depending on what im doing in the game at that moment?

Sorry to ask what is probably a stupid question (it feels like it is)
Respecs wipe the old build, but you can use enhancements from it in a new one (In fact, you have to, as you need circa 70 enhancements at level 50 and your character can only carry 10. Ones that weren't either slotted or put into inventory at the end of the respec are sold at rip-off prices. (Ok, theyu aren't rip-off sor most basic ones) )

Then, there are dual builds. Dual builds are the exact opposite, - you keep ypur old build, but enhancements for a new one have to be bought separately. Builds are switched by trainers (NPCs you ask for level up) and you must wait 15 minutes before switching back, but other than that there are no restrictions.

Also, if you use dual builds and devs decide to do a major change that affects both of your builds you're in a bit of trouble as you get just 1 free respec per character per major change, and you need 2 respecs to respec both builds.


 

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Welcome to the game!!

Yes, a resepc will replace your build, and it will be gone for good.

When you do a respec, it sends you through a modified version of the level up process that you get when talking to a trainer. First, you go through and pick your powers, clicking Next in the lower-right corner after each one. Then, you place your slots.

Finally, you're on a modified version of the Enhancement Placing screen. The space where your 10 unslotted enhancements are is moved up, and ALL enhancements you had, slotted or not, are in an area below that. You click and drag each enhancement to place it where you want, either into a power, or into your inventory (still limited to 10).

You're free to rearrange any enhancement, moving it to another slot, or taking it out. They don't get locked in until you finish the respec.

When you click Finish, it will tell you that all enhancements will be locked in, and ask if you're sure. If you leave any enhancements in the bottom box (below the inventory tray), it will tell you that you have unslotted enhancements, and that they will be sold for a certain amount (it will tell you how much you will get for all of them), and ask if you're sure.

Once you say you're sure to all the prompts, you're placed back into playing mode. You will have to move all your powers in your trays to set them up how you like, remove the ones you don't want, etc.

If you don't want to lose your PvE build, then you should talk to a Trainer, and choose the option to Use Or Rename Builds (I think that's what it says. Or something similar). You can have a second build, and set it up for PvP. You will have to talk to the trainer, and train up level by level, instead of having it work like the respec screen. And you'll have to buy a new set of enhancements, because your currently slotted ones will be in the PvE build.

Feel free to ask any more questions you may have. We love to answer them here!!

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
If you do the second build route, you can switch between the two builds, swapping the two complete sets of powers, slots and enhancements, at any trainer. There is a 30 minute cooldown on this swap, to prevent some exploits that might otherwise occur (when you switch builds, every cooldown is reset. If you could swap faster, you could bypass intentionally long cooldowns.)
Isn't 15 minutes?


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And the respec is on whichever build is currently active. Just make sure if your character has both builds already setup that you are currently using the one you wish to respec.


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Heroes he only got 5 polite, accurate Replies in less than 5 minutes.

Y'all slackin.