Exploiting Teleport foe in PvP
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bancruptBarrier,
Posted on: 2010-07-15 14:26 in Everything about PvP
Pleased to meet you I am Born to Drone! A level 50 science dominator.
Seriously if you are getting droned, its probably your fault. Learn the boundaries and accept the consequences if you go to deep. If they changed the drones base camping would be a million times worse, so unless they add a zone que to keep balance than this system is about as good as you can ask for.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
Just wait til GR, TP Foe on blaster slotted for Range + Boost Range and tp them out base while being outta there range 
Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
I believe this to strategist PvP maneuver and smart.
But I do disagree with this The police drones possess abilities well beyond the normal game mechanics. Jist because it is not written in red ink doesn't make it not a exploit. There are plenty of bugs and exploits in any of the MMOs. That will never be found or reported but thay still are what thay are. |
oh and a classic: base is safe.
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i KNEW he gonna post this one.
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Originally Posted by bancruptBarrier
oh and a classic: base is safe.
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You really should expect these sort of actions to occur OP in PvP, and if PvP is the sort of thing you want outta this game you need to come up with ideas to stop this rather than getting GM's to do it for you.
If PvP is but a side-line for PvE then just do what I did after the same thing happened.
"nice fight kid, can feel the sweat dripping off me after that fight lol" LEAVE ZONE, don't rant at person, just calmly leave zone.
In the end you win if you can leave with the knowledge you only got beaten by a drone.
You can't believe the smile I had on my face when I see the same pvp'er crying to get someone to come into zone to fight with (or drone with).
Too many 50's to list here's a few you may know.
Slazenger, Area51, Area53, Area54, Erruption, Mind Plague, Thresher, Sheath, Broadside, Debt
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Regardless how good you are if you have 3 vill vs 30 heroes you are not gonna do much. Droning is just tactical measure against odd numbers :P|
Originally Posted by Slazenger
You really should expect these sort of actions to occur OP in PvP, and if PvP is the sort of thing you want outta this game you need to come up with ideas to stop this rather than getting GM's to do it for you.
If PvP is but a side-line for PvE then just do what I did after the same thing happened. "nice fight kid, can feel the sweat dripping off me after that fight lol" LEAVE ZONE, don't rant at person, just calmly leave zone. In the end you win if you can leave with the knowledge you only got beaten by a drone. You can't believe the smile I had on my face when I see the same pvp'er crying to get someone to come into zone to fight with (or drone with). |
You contradict yourself here too. Person who is droning mostlikely is sitting at base next to drone, means his side is outnumbered, means there are enough enemies to fight therefore he would not by all means cry for more enemies. If it did happen that ALL enemies leave the zone it would be logical for him to wish that someone would show up to fight against.
But i don't see this person sitting at drone while zone is empty.
I play on the EU servers if you get more than 8 people in a zone in a week it means pvp is making a comeback.
This pvp'er thought he was being clever, but back fired on him.
Too many 50's to list here's a few you may know.
Slazenger, Area51, Area53, Area54, Erruption, Mind Plague, Thresher, Sheath, Broadside, Debt
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lol EU servers... dun get in range son :P
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Originally Posted by Slazenger
I play on the EU servers if you get more than 8 people in a zone in a week it means pvp is making a comeback.
This pvp'er thought he was being clever, but back fired on him. |
Only went into to range to PVP, but being droned is more like PvE to me, so off I went to PvE
Too many 50's to list here's a few you may know.
Slazenger, Area51, Area53, Area54, Erruption, Mind Plague, Thresher, Sheath, Broadside, Debt
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Originally Posted by Slazenger
In the end you win if you can leave with the knowledge you only got beaten by a drone.
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if you die after i tp you to a drone, and im still standing, i'm pretty sure i win.
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What is being said, is that the way the game mechanics work, you are not supposed to engage drones. They are door, and safe zone guards, in PvE zones and especially PvP zones. Heroes (or villains) are not supposed to be able to reach opposing factions spawn point or portals. Face it, you'd be whining if some Hellion could just enter the Hospital in Atlas Park and one shot your lvl 1 behind again and again. Same deal as in PvP.|
Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
So your saying you can not defend yourself or escape a drone.
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
Thank you for your help.
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
Oh but it is a big one and you helped me prove that. What do you have to lose by having this changed?
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
I doubt the developer would responed that way. Any game dev is going want there game to be fun and fair. The dev's would test it to see if its true and change it if thay have to. Bottom line you dont have the say or I its up to the devs.
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
love me or hate me in america you have the right to voice your opinion. Whether or not of your gender age education race religion sexuality or social status. Preventing one from doing so is against the law.
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To take advantage of that though, why don't you make sure your "opinion" is spelled correctly, because otherwise... Thay might not take you srsly..
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
Thanks to you for your help
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Damn Greeny, when did you become such a boss at forum pvp? I need to say nothing here, thank you. I remember back in the day when you use to get pushed around by Sin (Witacker version)
Sin, was a give and take thing. He helped me get in with a better crowd, I was my natural Mr Nice Guy self.. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.)
I also stopped blathering on Vent... Who would've thunk it...
Thank you and you're welcome :'D
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
Players on Freedom are uesing there teleport foe power. To teleport opposite faction players to these ploice drones. I would understand if thay teleported players to a boss minons or other players. But a ploice drone is a oneshot and your dead. As soon as your done your loadingscreen he heha. A littie commonsense tells me this is a exploit and to the point that I consiter it griefing.
(I do understand why Drones where put there in the first place. Most likely to stop players camping the bases.) I did make petition and the GM thought it. Was more a question for the Development Team so was directed hear. But the one thing remains how do you stop this? Because obviously this is a exploit. |
Droning is an accepted tactic. The devs know about the consequences of it. They've said, specifically said they're not fiddling with it because it's working as intended.
Therefore, it is NOT an exploit.
That's not to say it CANNOT be used for griefing. However, this becomes highly circumstantial. If you are the sole hero/villain in-zone, and the other side has an overwhelming number, is it griefing to grab passers by? No.
If you don't like this aspect of PVP, do what everyone else in your shoes does.
Make the decision to put up with it, or don't PVP.
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i wish my dom had an enemy based toggle so i could say i was toggle herding baddies into drones with my wormhole :-(
wormhole a group of camping rv scrappers and tanks and watch the profanity fly~!
I put this Thread up not to stop the ues of teleport foe or the prevention of it.
I understand your concerns and respect you for it. But this way of PvP is wrong and it can lead to griefing.
Im speaking the truth.
Only want to have the misuse of it stoped. That is uesing TP foe to telepoet a player to a drone. Witch is the same as tp'n someone in a wall. Think about it pelease.
We already all know what drones are and do so we know thay cant be destroyed. We know once in range there no getting away so there is no defence vrs a drone. So if you think about it is illegal already.
Try this go to the test sever and have someone ues. Teleport foe on you to teleport you to a eneme drone. Try as many times as you want to and if you can get away once. I'll admit defeat and that was wrong and apologies to you all.
actually you can escape a drone but someone has to be getting droned first. The drone can only shoot 1 death ray at once.
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Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
I put this Thread up not to stop the ues of teleport foe or the prevention of it.
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| I understand your concerns and respect you for it. But this way of PvP is wrong and it can lead to griefing. |
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| Im speaking the truth. |
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| Only want to have the misuse of it stoped. That is uesing TP foe to telepoet a player to a drone. Witch is the same as tp'n someone in a wall. Think about it pelease. |
Nothing to see here. Move on.
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| We know once in range there no getting away so there is no defence vrs a drone. |
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| So if you think about it is illegal already. |
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| Try this go to the test sever and have someone ues. Teleport foe on you to teleport you to a eneme drone. Try as many times as you want to and if you can get away once. I'll admit defeat and that was wrong and apologies to you all. |
You're ranting about a KNOWN ASPECT of a game that you just happen to NOT LIKE.
This is the part of the conversation where you suck it up and drive on.
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yurp, that's why getting more than 3 people into a wormhole and getting all of them droned is as close to an art form as it gets.
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
actually you can escape a drone but someone has to be getting droned first. The drone can only shoot 1 death ray at once.
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I honestly like your answer there Hyperstrike. Well thought out and what not. +1.
All I have left to say to that poor kids post is...
Cool story Bro.
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So there is no defence vs a drone and we all know that. But you want to say this is wright whan you dont need to drone to defeat your opponent. |
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
The mechanics and outcomes of droning are already known factors.
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Ok send in the mob im not afraid of any of you insult me all you want. But what is the big fear of haveing droning stopped?
In any MMO it has to change to grow and this change is good for all.
Yes we do hold a difference of opinion on this. I dont hold it agenst you you have that right.
I hope you dont hold my opinion agenst me. I believe this to be wrong so going to drive on until I hear from a dev on this.
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Sure. There's an INFALLIBLE defense against droning.|
Originally Posted by Dark-Orphan
So there is no defence vs a drone and we all know that. But you want to say this is wright whan you dont need to drone to defeat your opponent.
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Don't get within teleport range of an opposing side's drones.
I will try to keep this as close to monosyllabic as possible to aid your understanding.
IF YOU ARE FACING A DRONE YOU SCREWED UP!
Plain and simple. It means you weren't paying enough attention to your enemy and surroundings so you let them do this to you!
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| Ok send in the mob im not afraid of any of you insult me all you want. But what is the big fear of haveing droning stopped? |
The way you're being answered by me is to help YOU formulate YOUR thoughts appropriately. If I failed at that, I guess I'll just have to live with the guilt.
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| In any MMO it has to change to grow and this change is good for all. |
Change of what, in the devs' opinion is Working As Intended just because YOU don't happen to LIKE the mechanic is not "good" by any stretch of the imagination.
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| Yes we do hold a difference of opinion on this. I dont hold it agenst you you have that right. |
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| I hope you dont hold my opinion agenst me. I believe this to be wrong so going to drive on until I hear from a dev on this. |
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To clarify:
Using tp foe in this manner is NOT an exploit, that's per our Devs(no matter how much want it to be an exploit or disagree with the philosophy behind allowing this. See below for possibile reasons devs are standing behind such a philosophy).
GLHF, let us know how it goes for you and dont let it get to you. Work around it.