I know that I occasionally forget to toggle off my pain's heal aura when I go to the Black Market. Not always, but occasionally. The people that send tells to please detoggle it will get a polite response and a detoggling of the aura. Those that shout and call me names and wish harm upon me because I forgot to click a freaking button in a game can suck a sack of sick with a silly straw.
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Certainly an understandable attitude. To the bolded part, that's all it is. Simply trying not to mess up the people around you.
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SPiNE gives details: Manners? That's the problem I have with most MMoRPGs. Coming home from a day of work just to relax with a game just to find out that there are just as many rules and regulations to follow within the game itself as there are in real life. What the hell's with all these self-imposed rules and such? I'm not just talking about manners alone, it's the entirety of it all. People saying you can't do this or can't do that. Can human nature not live a day without some sort of law and order? To me, people who likes to create rules and worship them within a game are people who are failures in real life and are just trying to hold on to as much control as they can over a virtual world. That being said, I do agree that you should not be performing idiotic actions that actually hinder players from actually playing the game itself. Edit: I'm not talking about anyone on this thread, just in general. |
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Heehee, yes, being unmannerly in the way you ask for people to have manners is...a little nuts. |
Psychoti is the master of people being rude to him: I know that I occasionally forget to toggle off my pain's heal aura when I go to the Black Market. Not always, but occasionally. The people that send tells to please detoggle it will get a polite response and a detoggling of the aura. Those that shout and call me names and wish harm upon me because I forgot to click a freaking button in a game can suck a sack of sick with a silly straw. |
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The 'shut it off so the hostage can do what they need' argument I get. The lag one? That's touchy. People assume that when they get into the game and have no issues, others would not either. People just have trouble thinking that others might have experiences differing from their own.
That said? The game is built around powers that can and will effect you, even if you don't have them. Expecting people to only use their powers that the game gave them in certain ways is also from a limited perspective. If I play a person that shields people with forcefields, it's natural to try to be 'helpful' by doing those. Also, just as a bored player will knock off grey NPC's with their blasts as they pass, it's pretty common for a buffer to use their buffs in passing.
They can be a twit by doing something after you ask them not to, and you can be a twit by yelling at them for doing something they didn't mean in a bad way. In a mission, I expect every player to use every power they can to help the team reach its objective well...if the team has an aesthetic problem with a player's character and their powers, and tell them not to do stuff just for that cause, I daresay they are a twit.
Oh, in mission there's no question. I don't care how much ice covering me makes me look doofy or shadows obscure me, or speedboost makes me run into the wall (OK, that one's a bit touchy depending on one's machine), gimme it! 
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Originally Posted by SPiNE
Manners? That's the problem I have with most MMoRPGs. Coming home from a day of work just to relax with a game just to find out that there are just as many rules and regulations to follow within the game itself as there are in real life.
What the hell's with all these self-imposed rules and such? I'm not just talking about manners alone, it's the entirety of it all. People saying you can't do this or can't do that. Can human nature not live a day without some sort of law and order? To me, people who likes to create rules and worship them within a game are people who are failures in real life and are just trying to hold on to as much control as they can over a virtual world. That being said, I do agree that you should not be performing idiotic actions that actually hinder players from actually playing the game itself. Edit: I'm not talking about anyone on this thread, just in general. |
and ya if someone asks you to turn off your aoe stealth check to see if an NPC is following you cause that's the only time I have ever seen anyone asked to turn off such a power.
I leave shadowfall/steamy mist on at the market because frankly most of your costumes are terrible and making them transparent is an improvement 
No, I actually don't leave them running. I both do and do not understand the whole "powers off at the market" thing. Yeah, it's pointless to be running it, but if your computer can't handle someone running a stealth toggle at the market, how can you possibly handle, y'know, a fight in an actual mission? I turn them off just because of the possibility that it might actually cause a problem for some folks, but I suspect the main concern is that people really like to get angry about any damn fool thing they can.
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Speaking only for myself, I mentioned above that I had problems with the old WW interface, but I didn't have many problems in battle. A little jerky sometimes, but it didn't boot me out of the game. As noted above, this has gotten a lot better with the new interface. Someone firing off powers while I'm opening the interface now only makes my machine freeze for a couple of seconds. Still a little annoying, but not "critical" like it was before. It's a lag zone with its own personality. |
Emberly wonders about the machines: No, I actually don't leave them running. I both do and do not understand the whole "powers off at the market" thing. Yeah, it's pointless to be running it, but if your computer can't handle someone running a stealth toggle at the market, how can you possibly handle, y'know, a fight in an actual mission? |
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When I'm on a character with a Stealth power, I usually have it on during missions (Except when there's a captive to escort), and when travelling between them to avoid aggro from the street mobs. But in non-combat situations like shopping at the market, I turn all my toggles off. There's just no reason to have them running there, and all it does is create lag. It's not like an ambush will get dropped on you while you're shopping, and even if it did, the markets are surrounded by an instant-kill zone.
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It was like that for me, too. Between the new interface and me getting a new Alienware computer, that isn't nearly the problem it once was, but I still occasionally have an item I'm trying to sell not get posted when I click the button to post it.|
Originally Posted by Decorum
In the old WW interface, it would take upwards of 2-3 minutes after clicking for the screen to come up for me. If anyone running powers like that came near me...POOF, I was back to the login screen. Thankfully the new interface works a lot better now.
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I leave shadowfall/steamy mist on at the market because frankly most of your costumes are terrible and making them transparent is an improvement
No, I actually don't leave them running. I both do and do not understand the whole "powers off at the market" thing. Yeah, it's pointless to be running it, but if your computer can't handle someone running a stealth toggle at the market, how can you possibly handle, y'know, a fight in an actual mission? I turn them off just because of the possibility that it might actually cause a problem for some folks, but I suspect the main concern is that people really like to get angry about any damn fool thing they can. |
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I like your cute little phrases like this, but I wasn't necessarily saying it was minor, just that it isn't as huge a problem as it used to be now that we don't have the graphic at our feet anymore.|
Originally Posted by Decorum
Master-Blade says it's now minor:
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Originally Posted by Decorum
Frankly, I don't want even the "slight translucency" or that black around my feet either. Really, it should be common courtesy in a well-known laggy non-combat area to shut EVERYTHING off, but I realize I'm in a minority in that view.
EDIT: **looks up at last several posts** OK, at least I'm not alone. |
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To be honest, I was kind of agreeing with you. Sometimes it's tough for me to word those little quips well on the fly. |
Master-Blade thinks this is easy? : I like your cute little phrases like this, but I wasn't necessarily saying it was minor, just that it isn't as huge a problem as it used to be now that we don't have the graphic at our feet anymore. |
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I find it funny that some folks are complaining about being expected to show manners in a game. Yeah, it's a game. It's a virtual experience that doesn't do anything to directly improve the real world, so it doesn't matter....
Except it does. This isn't just a game. It's an MMO, a social setting, where there are multiple people interacting with each other. It also indirectly affects the real world in that a positive or negative experience can affect a person's mood, which can result in various effects to other people outside of the game.
Single Player games are the type of situation where you can do whatever you want, because when you are done, only you are affected by your actions. Being inside an MMO world is kinda like being inside a Dance Club. You pay your cover charge, you go in, you have a good time interacting with other people who have payed their cover charge. If you do annoying things, you'll get called out on it, and if you are offensive enough, you can be asked to leave (in the game, a temporary suspension) and even banned from entering ever again. While this may not be intentionally rude behavior, it can still bother people and being polite is key to any social interaction. You wouldn't go screaming through a library, because it would upset people trying to study, would you?
You can't escape rules and regulations in an MMO. If you want to do whatever you want, just so you can relax, without rules and regulations, go play Super Mario Bros. If you choose to play in an MMO, accept that you have to take other folks into consideration.
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And remember, if you rush up and defuse them QUICKLY, it helps to get rid of the proximity bombs.|
Originally Posted by Decorum
Be sure not to click any glowies in the TV respec, either.
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Eh, if you're too slow, worst case is you die. But they are good to get rid of.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Actually, it doesn't. At all. Shadow Fall (and Steamy Mist/Arctic Fog) has no affect on any character's ability to generate Threat.
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This is another soda thru the nose phrase, isn't it? Plus it's a tongue twister - go on, try to say it three times very fast.|
Originally Posted by Psychoti
can suck a sack of sick with a silly straw.
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Originally Posted by WarronPeace
I find it funny that some folks are complaining about being expected to show manners in a game. Yeah, it's a game. It's a virtual experience that doesn't do anything to directly improve the real world, so it doesn't matter....
Except it does. This isn't just a game. It's an MMO, a social setting, where there are multiple people interacting with each other. It also indirectly affects the real world in that a positive or negative experience can affect a person's mood, which can result in various effects to other people outside of the game. Single Player games are the type of situation where you can do whatever you want, because when you are done, only you are affected by your actions. Being inside an MMO world is kinda like being inside a Dance Club. You pay your cover charge, you go in, you have a good time interacting with other people who have payed their cover charge. If you do annoying things, you'll get called out on it, and if you are offensive enough, you can be asked to leave (in the game, a temporary suspension) and even banned from entering ever again. While this may not be intentionally rude behavior, it can still bother people and being polite is key to any social interaction. You wouldn't go screaming through a library, because it would upset people trying to study, would you? You can't escape rules and regulations in an MMO. If you want to do whatever you want, just so you can relax, without rules and regulations, go play Super Mario Bros. If you choose to play in an MMO, accept that you have to take other folks into consideration. |
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."
What the hell's with all these self-imposed rules and such? I'm not just talking about manners alone, it's the entirety of it all. People saying you can't do this or can't do that. Can human nature not live a day without some sort of law and order?
To me, people who likes to create rules and worship them within a game are people who are failures in real life and are just trying to hold on to as much control as they can over a virtual world.
That being said, I do agree that you should not be performing idiotic actions that actually hinder players from actually playing the game itself.
Edit: I'm not talking about anyone on this thread, just in general.