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So i decided i want to take soul on my SS/ElA so i can get gloom. I think i want to get gloom and DN but i run into a slight problem with IOs. Here is my question, would i be better off settling for 34 s/l def. and taking DN, or should i take tentecals and get to 37 def? I like the way the 37 looks on paper, but having a debuff toggle will come in handy against AVs and such. Thoughts, suggestions?


 

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Well, with the 34%, you are still within the 1 Luck pez of soft capped if I'm not mistaken.


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AV's will resist the majority of the debuff toggle, making it less useful against them than I think you'd really like.


 

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Yeah, the debuff toggle will be nigh useless against AVs, given Brute debuff mods. When I'm building for defense, I either go full tilt or aim for 33%, which puts you within Luck range of softcap. I'd say skip DN, get your 37% (which gives a little bit of room for defense debuffs after popping a luck) and carry purples around if/when you know there is going to be a tough fight ahead.


 

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It's stronger to stack DN on top of defense for ordinary spawns, and ElA has the endurance to run it. For AV, as mentioned, the debuff is heavily resisted, then you might need inspirations. The final decision depends on your build, for example whether you have enough slots for DN or not.


 

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as of now i have gloom and DN, DN is six slotted.


 

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Originally Posted by Ethical View Post
as of now i have gloom and DN, DN is six slotted.
Unless this post was saying that you've made your decision, I would go with Soul Tent. Although DN is nice on normal spawns, the time it takes to put the toggle up every mob would really bother me.

I've never used Soul Tentacles, so I can't comment on how useful they would be, although a narrow, ranged cone is never too great on a melee toon. If you're using it solely for a set mule, though, I would go for it. An extra 3% defense will provide a noticeable boost to your survivability, and it's not dependent on a pesky toggle that is easy to forget during a fight.

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Originally Posted by Alpha_A View Post
Unless this post was saying that you've made your decision, I would go with Soul Tent. Although DN is nice on normal spawns, the time it takes to put the toggle up every mob would really bother me.

I've never used Soul Tentacles, so I can't comment on how useful they would be, although a narrow, ranged cone is never too great on a melee toon. If you're using it solely for a set mule, though, I would go for it. An extra 3% defense will provide a noticeable boost to your survivability, and it's not dependent on a pesky toggle that is easy to forget during a fight.
I use both soul tentacles and darkest night on my ElA brute. For soul tentacles, the cone is small. Very often, it can only hit one mob. It's a good set mule, but a pretty disappointing aoe attack. For darkest night, I think you need to use it, and see how you feel. For solo, I don't see there are much problems with a toggle. In fast teams, I think it is a little slow to open a fight with a toggle. Sometimes, mobs die too fast, and I may not bother toggling up darkest night again on another mob. Overall, I think darkest night has some practical issues to be used efficiently in teams for a brute, but it is ok if a character has the endurance to run it, and if one of your goals is to floor mob's to-hit chance without actually soft-capping defense.


 

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Originally Posted by Ethical View Post
So i decided i want to take soul on my SS/ElA so i can get gloom. I think i want to get gloom and DN but i run into a slight problem with IOs. Here is my question, would i be better off settling for 34 s/l def. and taking DN, or should i take tentecals and get to 37 def? I like the way the 37 looks on paper, but having a debuff toggle will come in handy against AVs and such. Thoughts, suggestions?

Neither 34% nor 37% will be doing enough for you if you want to solo AVs.

If you mean on teams, DN +34% will do more for you than 37% alone will - be that vs. AVs, packs of Cimerorans, or other trouble mobs.

It's also protection you can extend to your team mates.


 

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Neither 34% nor 37% will be doing enough for you if you want to solo AVs.
Correction: If you want to solo AVs with no temps and no insps. If you just want to solo them, then both 34 and 37 are one small purple from the softcap and that is doing you a world of good.


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How, if at all, does DN's damage debuff figure into this?