Nemesis System


Arctic_Princess

 

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I know we did this a few months ago, but it such a interesting thing now that Going Rogue is coming out! Beside I have a few more ideas. Also I fixed my grammer I know this is coming.

If you are a villain that goes good here some things your nemesis (The Hero) could do.

1. Not trust you and fight you making everyone think he is turning to a villain.

2. He can be your sidekick!

3. He can just go look for other villains to beat and you will get a new nemesis.

4. Or a villains kills him, (Your new nemesis)


I think we should get a nemesis around level 5 or 10.

The nemesis can be as strong as you, or stronger if you want : ) (because you know, that mission guy)
example
let say you both are tankers, you both will have 3,000 HPs at X level

If you both have nova as a blaster, you both will do 500 damage. I know the enhancements will make it a little different.

You can make his/her minions, they will be as strong as the normal guys you fight.
They could hunt you down,

maybe 80% of the time they will attack you in battle
50% of the time they will attack in your missions that not your nemesis.
35% of the time they will attack while you are stranding around.


Heroes' nemesis' GOAL

I think it would be cool to pick goals, it would make more missions and make it easyer to get missions that fit your nemesis.

examples

Rule the World: They just want to take over the world. To control everyone, they won't let anyone stand in the way!

Destroy the World: They want the world cover in dust, ashes, and darkness.

Stalker: They love you, and they will do anything to marry you! They will also help you if you are about to die.

Money Love!:All they want and care about is money! Who doesn't??

Serial Killer:These guys just like to kill, you don't really care about their henchmen but they know they need them to beat you

ORGINS, the missions also could be spread out the missions.

Tech: would be, making death rays, robots, and stuff like that.

Magic: summons stuff., and other stuff kinda like the CoT,

Science: Make weird monsters kinda like the Arachnoids

Mutant: not sure about his one

Villains' nemesis' GOALs

I am not really sure about this part. Maybe pick city they protect them most.

Also what they do more, like maybe they save people more often then stopping a bank robbery

So, there can be a 50% chance of them beating you to your newspaper mission to save someone, take a item from the villains, or what ever you are doing.

So, there are

Kidnap
Steal
Defeat
missions right? Well maybe your nemesis defeat villains more then saving or recover things from the villains.

So, it would be
Kidnap 50%
steal 50%
Defeat 75%

I was thinking after ever 5 nemesis you fight, your active one can break out the other nemesis and they all 5 of them can fight you. : )

Maybe make it so you only get a nemesis mission every 3 hours? That is 8 missions a day That way you can't get to the last mission super fast

BASES

I think it would be kinda cool to make their main base kinda like we make our Super Groups.

I don't want to hear about being able to do it with MA, you can't, not without being in that building


 

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I don't want to hear about being able to do it with MA, you can't, not without being in that building
Unfortunately Power, this is the ONLY way you are going to see anything done on a Nemesis System.

Let me spell this out for you, in the style of Captain Kirk.

Champions. Online. Failed. ,. It. Is. Not. A. Game. To. Look. For. Gameplay. Ideas. For. City. Of. Heroes. .. Stop. Posting. Champions. Online. Ideas. Here. As. Though. They. Were. New. ..

The AE system allows the developers to expose storyline capabilities to the players directly, without having to rejig the rest of the existing game, or spend massive amounts of developer time adding additional code into the game.


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
[B][I]Champions. Online. Failed. ,. It. Is. Not. A. Game. To. Look. For. Gameplay. Ideas. For. City. Of. Heroes. .. Stop. Posting. Champions. Online. Ideas. Here. As. Though. They. .
Just because it sucks in one game doesn't mean it will suck here lol. Also CO didn't fail, they are pretty cool but the fact you are little to powerful in that game. : P


 

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Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
You are aware that Emmert originally wanted a Nemesis system here, too, and typically didn't find a way to make it work, aren't you?
Nope Who is Emmert?


 

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What? Do you think everyone in this game knows everyone who works here....He work here right?? I only know a few poeple name Matt as Positron, Christopher as BaB, and Melissa as War Witch... So, who is Emmert


 

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Jack Emmert = Statesman, the "creator" of both CoH and Champions.
Oh. Cool I don't read most things I just hang out here throwing out ideas


 

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I get a lot of tags : P wonder who put them there I wish I could see hehe


 

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Besides the hilarious facepalm picture (good work ), we already have a nemesis system:

They're called Archvillains, patrols, villains, Heroes, and most of the game content. Especially when dealing with Crey, whose PR department is on the ball and knows who we are.

Also we have dopplegangers, Protean, Nemesis himself, Requiem and a variety of groups who have been beaten up so many times by us, it's a wonder they ever bother trying to take over/destroy/save the World.

Power, I believe you should consolidate your ideas into ONE thread. It would stop the clutter and make for interesting reading. Sort of like when they made a cosolidated 'Happy Birthday' thread. You could call it the 'Power's Ideas Thread / Epic Facepalm Directory'.

We could have a list of your ideas, followed by a variety of epic facepalms. I for one would subscribe straight away.


 

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Originally Posted by Power_NA View Post
Oh. Cool I don't read most things I just hang out here throwing out ideas
Oh, and how I wish you didn't... >_<


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I think that new doppelganger/evil clone whatever arc from level 20-30 is our version of a nemesis. Maybe if the devs figured a way it could be added as a boss/av randomly in the Paper/Radio missions or even in the Mayhem/Safeguard missions once we hit level 20+.


 

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Oh strewth;


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
Oh strewth
Please explain what strewth is. I am unfamiliar with the term.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Please explain what strewth is. I am unfamiliar with the term.
Abbreviate and conglomerate "It is truth" a few times and it'll sound like "strewth". Probably ("prolly") already used in some region's accent.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Please explain what strewth is. I am unfamiliar with the term.
While BBQs answer actually makes sense now I think about it, 'Strewth', to the best of my own (meagre) knowledge of it is a general exclamation used in the land of Oz (Australia).

In the same vein, people use;
"Jesus"
"Christ"
"Damn"
"Hells"
"Crimeny"

Etc. Just one word exclamations, usually to exclaim surprise, shock or, in this case, imminent facepalming


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
While BBQs answer actually makes sense now I think about it, 'Strewth', to the best of my own (meagre) knowledge of it is a general exclamation used in the land of Oz (Australia).

In the same vein, people use;
"Jesus"
"Christ"
"Damn"
"Hells"
"Crimeny"

Etc. Just one word exclamations, usually to exclaim surprise, shock or, in this case, imminent facepalming
Ah! Like my "Oy vey". I was totally baffled for a while there. Thanks for the heads up.


 

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*puts on his Quite Interesting comfortable tweed jacket*

It's short for God's Truth... so it's a way of shortening something that might otherwise be considered blasphemy.

Like 'blooming'/'ruddy' - as in, that's blooming/ruddy awful.

*removes QI paraphernalia*


 

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Originally Posted by Arctic_Princess View Post
*puts on his Quite Interesting comfortable tweed jacket*

It's short for God's Truth... so it's a way of shortening something that might otherwise be considered blasphemy.

Like 'blooming'/'ruddy' - as in, that's blooming/ruddy awful.

*removes QI paraphernalia*
James May called, he wants his Porsche Smoking Pipe back.


 

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Short answer: NO

Long answer: NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

I do not want to arrive at a mission to find it already completed by someone else. I get enough of that during speed TFs.

There are already missions that have you teaming with AVs and the like. People who, if you met them in other circumstances in a mission would be doing their damndest to turn you into hero/villain pate.

Also, there are HOW many active heroes/villains on the servers. Coming up with an initially randomly generated nemesis and then make sure to keep them the same AND progressing them as you do would put a strain on server resources.

So welcome to the Airborne jRangers!



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