Submitted for approval of the Defender Society: My all purpose Cold/Ice build
By
chief_beef,
Posted on: 2010-06-20 09:23 in Defenders
Quick response: Your recharge and defenses seem nice atm, but there's a few things that are kinda nagging at me.
1) That seems like a hella lot of accuracy. I call about 120% alright and 140% more than alright and will try to go after other enhancements after that mark (if it keeps going up due to set bonuses, more power to it). I say this mostly due to post Sleet. It's a 30% Defense debuff on top of infridg which is another ST 31% defense debuff. Also, you got tactics too. Slotting for accuracy is very redundant at this point. Plus, if you're going to be storm crazy, they have a great accuracy already and thus don't need the accuracy to begin with.
2) The entire leadership pool isn't as amazing as one would hope. It's nice, but you don't need to build yourself specifically to it. Vengeance can be switched for Hover or CJ and you'll get the 7.5 still in there, plus another toggle towards defense, instead of your crazy accuracy already.
3) If you did Analyze Weakness for accuracy, as stated above, it's not needed. If it's for the 3% damage buff, I know a better and more effective way. If it's for the 10% regen, well... okay you'll win that. Undermind Defenses End/Rech and Rech will greatly lower your recharge for something you'll want up every mob. Then do either Touch of LG End/Rech OR Heel Def debuff/Rech and then for your 4th slot Heel proc. That way, it's doing -30% resist with 4 ticks (if they are in the sleet the entire time and get hit on the first tick of Sleet) worth of 20% chance for -20% resist, meaning there's 4 different 20% chance of 10 seconds worth of -50% resistance on the enemies. Times this by the innate defense debuff that mean that everyone will hit anyway, and poor, you're doing a crapton of resist to the enemy. Not to mention the mitigation factors. Also, with the slotting ideas above, that gives you 3.5% dmg along with a faster recharge Sleet.
4) Consider slotting stamina with Performance Shifter +end proc that's especially nice when you nuke and the shifter regular End one. This way, you'll have a 4% less recovery via stamina and a 20% chance for 10% endurance (so 10, or a bit higher if you're accoladed out). Also doing the shifter end mod will give you 5% movement speed. Why not get a boost of speed when you're slotting the same thing anyhow.
5) Consider putting a 5th slot in Infrigidate. Why? Shield Breaker 4 slotted (probably for recharge) and a Heel proc. This will give you extra AoE defense, plus recovery and status resistance.
6) Depending on what you're wanting Power Build Up to do, I may suggest choosing something else. It doesn't up your ally shields, not arctic air because of the resistances within it. It will up Maneuvers for... 12.5 seconds. Defense debuffs are meh, though the damage aspect is something to consider. Though you may find yourself finding a better epic to dip yourself into if that's the reason why you were thinking it.
7) I think if you sacrified a bit of damage (estimated 24 damage when teaming), you can lower ice storm from 36 to 25 seconds recharge. You can also slot it like blizzard (or slot it that way instead of blizzard and just switch them) to get yourself more recharge (and accuracy if you take off tactics/venge >.>).
8) I'd also, if you can find the slots for it, place 5 slots in Health (my preferred way to slot it). Numina Unique, Miracle Unique, Numina Heal, Miracle Heal, and Regen Tissue unique. This slotting offers 82% regen and 27.5% recovery. It's at least something to consider.
These are just some food for thought. Slotting for Positional defense on a Cold Dom is a good idea since (against my wants) Arctic Air only raises positional defense instead of all (like steamy mist). However, your defense looks nice and so does your recharge, but this'll at least give you a few more tricks to pull off even more Shenanigans!
Edit: I just failed at quick posting... time for me to go to bed so I can wake up in 3 hours to go to work. Thankfully I'll have the day off Tuesday to recoup.
50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
I'd still suggest you consider possible suggestions that I gave, but here's the general idea that I'd personally do. The resistances, regen, and lowered your crazy accuracy.
Also, I just noticed that Power Boost on Mids was giving you increased defense, as such, other than a slight Energy/Fire/Cold resist and about 3.5% Ranged defense, the defenses I've provided in this build are higher. So in short, faster recharge (storms & long recharge debuffs), about the same damage, better defense (mostly), and a more relevant epic pool. Hopefully this will help spawn some new ideas when you're tinkering between the two builds.
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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(A), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(50)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3)
Level 4: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(11)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(13), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43), S'fstPrt-ResKB(46)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(15), Mrcl-Rcvry+(15), Mrcl-Heal(40), RgnTis-Regen+(40)
Level 16: Freeze Ray -- BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(17), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(17), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Ice Storm -- Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(23), Posi-Dmg/Rng(23), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dam%(37)
Level 24: Aim -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Build%(36)
Level 26: Sleet -- UndDef-Rchg(A), UndDef-Rchg/EndRdx(27), Achilles-DefDeb/Rchg(27), Achilles-ResDeb%(34)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(29), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(33)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Blizzard -- Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(39), Posi-Dmg/Rng(39), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Dark Consumption -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Oblit-%Dam(43)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam(45)
Level 47: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 6: Ninja Run
50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
I messed with a lot of stuff. Because of the amount of accuracy bonuses in the build and the presence of tactics, you don't need to have accuracy slotted in infrigidate or benumb. I moved power selections around so that tactics came before benumb in the build. I also took out freeze ray. Even with two hold procs in it, freeze ray only has a 27.75% chance of holding a boss for eight seconds, and minions and lieutenants are better dealt with by dealing a lot of damage to them really fast for this build. Benumb is your best option for dealing with bosses. I also replaced blizzard with frost breath. The damage procs in sleet, ice storm, and frost breath combined should be enough for you to seriously damage the enemy group. There's no need to be waiting on blizzard's long recharge timer when you can wipe out all of the minions with your faster powers.
55% global recharge (outside hasten)
18.3% melee
29.5% ranged
22.9% area (all with manuevers and arctic fog up)
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Miss Permacold: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 4: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 8: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(17), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+(21), Mrcl-Heal(46), RgnTis-Regen+(50)
Level 18: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-EndMod(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(42)
Level 22: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(40), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(40), S'fstPrt-ResKB(40)
Level 24: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(37), ImpSwft-Dam%(37)
Level 26: Sleet -- P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(27), RechRdx-I(27), Posi-Dam%(36), LdyGrey-%Dam(36), ShldBrk-%Dam(37)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(29), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Build%(34)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(46)
Level 35: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 47: Frost Breath -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), ImpSwft-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 6: Ninja Run
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QR, will post a more thought out response later...
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I hate missing my target, and I have a hard time accepting anything below a 95% chance to hit. (call it a pet peeve, and I cringe every time infrig misses) so on snap judgment I scoffed at this statement, however upon looking it over I can agree that I have gone overboard with the acc bonuses. |
Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
Quick response: Your recharge and defenses seem nice atm, but there's a few things that are kinda nagging at me.
1) That seems like a hella lot of accuracy. I call about 120% alright and 140% more than alright and will try to go after other enhancements after that mark (if it keeps going up due to set bonuses, more power to it). I say this mostly due to post Sleet. It's a 30% Defense debuff on top of infridg which is another ST 31% defense debuff. Also, you got tactics too. Slotting for accuracy is very redundant at this point. Plus, if you're going to be storm crazy, they have a great accuracy already and thus don't need the accuracy to begin with. |
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Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
2) The entire leadership pool isn't as amazing as one would hope. It's nice, but you don't need to build yourself specifically to it. Vengeance can be switched for Hover or CJ and you'll get the 7.5 still in there, plus another toggle towards defense, instead of your crazy accuracy already.
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Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
3) If you did Analyze Weakness for accuracy, as stated above, it's not needed. If it's for the 3% damage buff, I know a better and more effective way. If it's for the 10% regen, well... okay you'll win that. Undermind Defenses End/Rech and Rech will greatly lower your recharge for something you'll want up every mob. Then do either Touch of LG End/Rech OR Heel Def debuff/Rech and then for your 4th slot Heel proc. That way, it's doing -30% resist with 4 ticks (if they are in the sleet the entire time and get hit on the first tick of Sleet) worth of 20% chance for -20% resist, meaning there's 4 different 20% chance of 10 seconds worth of -50% resistance on the enemies. Times this by the innate defense debuff that mean that everyone will hit anyway, and poor, you're doing a crapton of resist to the enemy. Not to mention the mitigation factors. Also, with the slotting ideas above, that gives you 3.5% dmg along with a faster recharge Sleet.
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@ Garent:
I use Freeze Ray frequently after the 2 rains as part of my ST chain. While solo I use it to isolate the Lts / bosses from the minions to manage spawns (I Let the rains deal with the minions and throw ST chain/hold to safely defeat bosses) On teams, I use it to help mitigate damage from the second boss the melee has aggro'd or keep them off of other squishies, including me. My experience thus far on teams is that its generally appreciated.
As far as Frost Breath goes, I seem to have a rough time making the most out of narrow (30 degree) cones, so I generally avoid them.
as mentioned, I'll go into more detail later... probably will turn into one of those TL;DR posts...
Don't get angry and go away, just go away -Ranma
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Originally Posted by Indigo_blade
I hate missing my target, and I have a hard time accepting anything below a 95% chance to hit. (call it a pet peeve, and I cringe every time infrig misses) so on snap judgment I scoffed at this statement, however upon looking it over I can agree that I have gone overboard with the acc bonuses.
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However, like above, if I made you think about it, I've done my job.
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| As far as Frost Breath goes, I seem to have a rough time making the most out of narrow (30 degree) cones, so I generally avoid them. |
Edit: Oh yeah, CJ/Hover will help you aim up cones a bit better due to the maneuverability, which was part of what I was mentioning above.
50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
Most of my defender cones (in your case frost breath), with the exception of fearsome stare perhaps, I usually slot an enhancement for RANGE. This not only makes the cone longer, but also when it's longer the AoE gets wider at the farthest point. There are a lot of advantages to this.
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HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
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This is a reason why I slot my cones with Posi's Blast Dmg/Range. Usually have to decide between Dmg/Range (usually for cones), proc (if accuracy is to my taste/range AND acc is really important), or acc/dmg (if accuracy is not up to snuff or there's little reason for range in comparison). Then you get an accuracy, recovery, resist, and recharge set bonuses. What's there not to like other than more /rech enhancements.
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Originally Posted by Psylenz
Most of my defender cones (in your case frost breath), with the exception of fearsome stare perhaps, I usually slot an enhancement for RANGE. This not only makes the cone longer, but also when it's longer the AoE gets wider at the farthest point. There are a lot of advantages to this.
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50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
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Frost breath definitely isn't for everyone. If you have trouble using it, then I don't think you should force it.
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Originally Posted by Indigo_blade
As far as Frost Breath goes, I seem to have a rough time making the most out of narrow (30 degree) cones, so I generally avoid them.
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i just respecced my cold/ice and this is what im currently using in sleet and it's working out well:
i have the undermined defenses end/rech and rech previously mentioned as well as the achilles heel proc and 3 dmg procs, posi, lady grey, and impeded swiftness.
i like using the achilles heel in an aoe since it has a chance at debuffing far more enemies than just the ST. but who says you can't use one in both? 
and i like having my freeze ray, very handy for stopping the surgeons on the itf when you're in the middle of buffing or storming the cimeroran traitors into submission. or sappers. or any number of pesky jerks. but i just use the 4 basilisk's gaze. it been sufficient so far.
This build works well for me.
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I wonder whatever happened to Turbo Ski?
The first thing that jumped out on your original build is that the ally shields weren't very well slotted.
Between them and Manouvers and Arctic Fog you can make your whole team sit at 40% Defense or so. That's ridiculous defence right there without the need for a death.
Trying to give your team a high defence via Vengeance seems kind of counterproductive when you've got Ice Shield and Glacial Shield underslotted.
Updated my build with some different tricks( or gimmicks) I've decided I really like using my hold, and as mentioned earlier, a 24% chance to hold a boss isn't all that stellar. So I instead chose to give my self 100% chance to hold a boss with a second Hold with dominate from the psy mastery epic. I haven't read the new posts yet ( starting with chief_beef) so I'll get to that soon.
I reduced some of the "crazy" accuracy bonuses and added more AoE and ranged Defense and a little more damage bonus. I Still would like to get more +recharge in there...
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Miss Permacold: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Psychic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate
- (A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
- (11) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (17) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (17) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (21) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
- (37) Miracle - +Recovery
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (19) Recharge Reduction IO
- (19) Accuracy IO
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (21) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
- (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (46) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (25) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (25) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (37) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (50) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Undermined Defenses - Recharge
- (27) Undermined Defenses - Defense Debuff/Recharge
- (27) Undermined Defenses - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
- (42) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (42) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff/Recharge
- (42) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (34) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (46) Impeded Swiftness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
- (34) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
- (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (A) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
- (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
- (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
- (50) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold
- (50) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Celerity - +Stealth
- (A) Empty
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 14.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 4.25% Defense(Smashing)
- 4.25% Defense(Lethal)
- 7.69% Defense(Fire)
- 7.69% Defense(Cold)
- 19.9% Defense(Energy)
- 19.9% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 5.5% Defense(Melee)
- 21.8% Defense(Ranged)
- 12.4% Defense(AoE)
- 1.8% Max End
- 56.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 39% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 2.5% Enhancement(Held)
- 22% FlySpeed
- 68.7 HP (6.75%) HitPoints
- 22% JumpHeight
- 22% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
- MezResist(Held) 7.45%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.5%
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.5%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%
- 18.5% (0.31 End/sec) Recovery
- 50% (2.12 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.58% Resistance(Cold)
- 22% RunSpeed
Don't get angry and go away, just go away -Ranma
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Vengeance is the reason to take Leadership. Drop it only for a solo or farming build, where you can be sure there will be absolutely no faceplants, or the faceplant will always be yourself. In the world of real teams, teammate faceplants happen, and nothing stops the deterioration to team wipe better than Vengeance on auto. Bad empaths think they can stop it with Resurrect, but it's really all about the mighty autoveng.|
Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
Vengeance can be switched for Hover or CJ
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Only problem is you can't put both Hasten and Vengeance on auto at the same time. Sooo... you'll have to click Hasten manually on your teaming build. Sorry. Don't worry, you get used to it.
Public service reminder: Not all AoE heals should be put on auto. Just this one.
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It's obvious that we disagree as I tend to see face-plants very rarely, but to each their own. I see Leadership as a more powerful Hover/CJ for the team with Maneuvers and then more damage with Assault. Other than that, I personally dislike Leadership. Maneuvers tends to be on most of my characters and maybe assault if I have power selection room (or need a power with a low slotting for other powers). But once again, that's just personal preference.|
Originally Posted by Rigel_Kent
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Only problem is you can't put both Hasten and Vengeance on auto at the same time. Sooo... you'll have to click Hasten manually on your teaming build. Sorry. Don't worry, you get used to it. Public service reminder: Not all AoE heals should be put on auto. Just this one. |
Unless it's a build planning on people face-planting (I'm looking at you Radiation Emission), I find Venge useless as I try to keep everyone alive anyhow. If people are face-planting more than once every 3+ missions without people just being plain dumb, then we need to change our tactics as a team or something, because obviously it ain't working. The less situational powers are worth far less than the once every 4 mobs which are worth far less than the every mob powers. Multiple times per mob powers depends on the power and whatnot. But then again, that is my personal opinion and to each their own.
Good Ice Shields > Venge every time.
50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
Okay, so this thread was dying since no one seemed to have an opinion on the 2nd build I posted, meaning it was absolutely horrible or absolutely perfect. Today I tinkered around more in Mids and finally found a way to achieve uber recharge, albeit at the cost of defense bonuses. Yes, it resorts to purple sets, but I guess it was unavoidable.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Miss Permacold: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(3), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(5), Achilles-ResDeb%(11), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(7), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(15), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Apoc-Dam%(46)
Level 2: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 4: Ice Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 8: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(21)
Level 18: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), Acc-I(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(23)
Level 22: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(46)
Level 24: Freeze Ray -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(25), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34)
Level 26: Sleet -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(29), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(37), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod(33), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 38: Tactics -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(39), GSFC-ToHit(39), GSFC-Build%(40), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-Rchg(43)
Level 44: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Blizzard -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 11% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 11% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 11% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 11% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 11% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 11% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 11% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 11% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 4.25% Defense(Smashing)
- 4.25% Defense(Lethal)
- 5.5% Defense(Fire)
- 5.5% Defense(Cold)
- 6.75% Defense(Energy)
- 6.75% Defense(Negative)
- 8% Defense(Psionic)
- 5.5% Defense(Melee)
- 6.75% Defense(Ranged)
- 8% Defense(AoE)
- 4.5% Max End
- 100% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 51% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 122.1 HP (12%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
- MezResist(Held) 5.25%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 8%
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.5%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%
- 19% (0.32 End/sec) Recovery
- 66% (2.8 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 5.67% Resistance(Fire)
- 5.67% Resistance(Cold)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 5% RunSpeed
viewing this and reply#14, am I better off with this build or the other( or neither)?
Don't get angry and go away, just go away -Ranma
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I thought power build up just worked like pseudo enhancements, giving all your powers the equivalent of an extra 98% defense/control/healing/endurance/movement/tohitbuff boost for the duration. And enhancements don't care if there's multiple things to enhance in a power, they just enhance what they're able to. A defense enhancement doesn't not work in a power if it has both resistance and defense (otherwise shield defense would be pretty screwed with its melee def, smash/lethal resistance toggle....).|
Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
6) Depending on what you're wanting Power Build Up to do, I may suggest choosing something else. It doesn't up your ally shields, not arctic air because of the resistances within it. It will up Maneuvers for... 12.5 seconds. Defense debuffs are meh, though the damage aspect is something to consider. Though you may find yourself finding a better epic to dip yourself into if that's the reason why you were thinking it.
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The only way I know of they have to make power build up not effect something would also break enhancements being able to effect it.
So where have you heard of power build up not boosting cold domination/why do you think this?
Keep in mind if testing yourself, for other buffs to be boosted by powerbuildup/ power boost powers they have to be cast while the boost is active.
I will admit I wasn't around when cold domination was extended to defenders but, I know of no mechanic that allows them or would cause powerbuildup to be disabled for just one power without having side effects.
Culex's resistance guide
All I know (which I'm still heavily peeved at) is that Power Boost doesn't work with Cold Dom shields. As such, I'd be weary of PBU working properly.
50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
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I would also comment that there are situations (STF runs for example) where the additional +to-hit from tactics can be essential. That is why I take the leadership pool. In order to have assault for that extra damage, and tactics for AVs with defense based god modes.|
Originally Posted by Rigel_Kent
Vengeance is the reason to take Leadership. Drop it only for a solo or farming build, where you can be sure there will be absolutely no faceplants, or the faceplant will always be yourself.
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Originally Posted by StormyDarkness
All I know (which I'm still heavily peeved at) is that Power Boost doesn't work with Cold Dom shields. As such, I'd be weary of PBU working properly.
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Just to confirm, you have tested this with an ally looking at real numbers, as the numbers reported in the buff icons can lie.
Draggynn on Virtue: lvl 50 Storm/Psi, 1389 badges
Draggynn's Guide to Storm Summoning(Gale-Tornado, updated 6/25/2011)
Avatar by Wassy full reference here
This is my first defender I've rolled in over 3 years and I came up with this build which focuses on the strength of the defender class (namely the leadership pool) but also suits my blaster play style. I would have liked to squeeze out more +recharge, but I guess I'm just greedy.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Miss Permacold: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (3) Recharge Reduction IO
- (5) Defense Debuff IO
- (11) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 1: Ice Bolt- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (17) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Ice Shield- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 4: Ice Blast- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (17) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 6: Glacial Shield- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 8: Snow Storm- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 10: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 12: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Super Speed- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 16: Health- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 18: Benumb- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (19) Recharge Reduction IO
- (19) Accuracy IO
- (21) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 20: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (21) Endurance Modification IO
- (23) Endurance Modification IO
Level 22: Arctic Fog- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
- (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (46) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 24: Freeze Ray- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (25) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (25) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (37) Devastation - Chance of Hold
- (37) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
Level 26: Sleet- (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
- (27) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
- (27) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
- (50) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (34) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 30: Ice Storm- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (31) Damage Increase IO
- (46) Damage Increase IO
Level 32: Heat Loss- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
- (33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
- (34) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
- (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 35: Maneuvers- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Tactics- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 41: Power Build Up- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
- (42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
- (43) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
- (43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 44: Vengeance- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 47: Blizzard- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 49: Assault- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
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- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Celerity - +Stealth
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: VigilanceLevel 6: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
Don't get angry and go away, just go away -Ranma