Enzyme Exposure slotted in Weave?
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DSorrow,
Posted on: 2010-06-20 12:49 in The Market and Inventions
You can slot it there, but since weave gives no defense debuff resistance it won't modify your d.d.r.
I would normally think that and since I dont have any enzyme's on hand I cant prove it but MIDS is usually spot on when it comes to things like this. I seem to remember there being some discussion about this subject but I'm coming up with nada in search.
I borrowed 100mil from another toon and bought one then copied over to test and I can confirm that at least on test you can slot them into defense powers and get the 33% effect in your defense instead of 20% as well as 33% for your endurance.
The only thing the enzyme should enhance in weave is endurance reduction but HOs and SHOs have always been...different. They kind of ignore the difference between things like defense buff/defense debuff, damage/damage resist, and to hit buff/to hit debuff.
Thus you could slot an enzyme in weave and it will enhance the defense buff of weave. You could slot centrioles in powers like Increase Density or Thermal or Sonic shields to enhance their damage resistance.
This only works though if your HO/SHO will actually enhance something else in the power naturally. Like the Enzyme only fits in Weave because it has the Endurance Reduction portion but it will also enhance the defense buff portion of weave as sort of a side effect. The centriole in say a thermal's Fire Shield fits because you can slot Fire Shield for range. If you were to try and slot Fire Shield with a nucleolus (Acc/Dam) it wouldn't work because you can't slot Fire Shield for accuracy.
I don't know if this is clear, I hope it is.
I think this is one of those slightly bugged things about HOs which is now accepted as a feature of them. Even by devs. Just something to make them able to compete with IOs.
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Oh I thought you were thinking it would enhance your defense debuff resistance, which it won't. Defense, yeah I could see it doing that with the wonky hami logic. Neat trick to remember.
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Originally Posted by Ignitros
I would normally think that and since I dont have any enzyme's on hand I cant prove it but MIDS is usually spot on when it comes to things like this. I seem to remember there being some discussion about this subject but I'm coming up with nada in search.
I borrowed 100mil from another toon and bought one then copied over to test and I can confirm that at least on test you can slot them into defense powers and get the 33% effect in your defense instead of 20% as well as 33% for your endurance. |
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Wiki page telling about it.|
Originally Posted by Ignitros
I borrowed 100mil from another toon and bought one then copied over to test and I can confirm that at least on test you can slot them into defense powers and get the 33% effect in your defense instead of 20% as well as 33% for your endurance.
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Four year old thread telling about it, including Castle's warning that it will get fixed eventually.
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I think Castle said in a more recent post that with IOs released they won't be touching how Hami-Os work to make them desireable along IOs.
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while they may not fix how the Hamis work, they do sometimes go in and remove the possibility of it working in certain powers. see the recent change to a shield power where they made the def debuff protection unenhanceable. |
Originally Posted by DSorrow
And that was four years ago
I think Castle said in a more recent post that with IOs released they won't be touching how Hami-Os work to make them desireable along IOs. |
that shouldn't be a concern for using an enzyme in weave as they can't make the defense in weave unenhanceable but something to keep in mind with some of the HO slotting you see in some of the builds posted in the forums.
Yes you can slot Enzyme Exposures into ANY defensive power and it will enhance your defense by 33% rather than 20%. It has also been stated by Positron that this is now an accepted feature of Hami-Os. It will also enhance your DDR is certain powers.
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I was playing around with MIDS hero designer and it shows I can slot Enzyme Exposure Hami O's into Weave. Now it is a defense debuff so is this a glitch or one of those working as intended unintendedly things?