Oranbega...

Better if they don't say too much about the place of Atlantis in CoH lore anyway. If the devs ever decided to create new content (including zones) themed around Atlantis, they'd have free reign to create supporting material without being tied down to existing lore.

People want it, so maybe it should happen eventually. I don't know. On the other hand, Atlantis has been done to death in other comic book universes. City of Heroes started something different with Oranbega, which is awesome. Imagine an Oranbega-themed expansion on the level of City of Villains or Going Rogue. Or imagine zones on other planets, space-stations or ships. Or zones that take you back to the 1930s. Or zones that are wrapped around other zones and then sprinkled generously on top of a donut. Huh time for bed.

Teilekku is assumed to be the leader of the faction that put down the Banished Pantheon, but it is not mentioned anywhere as far as I know save for it seems the rough translation of the scroll of Teilekku which obviously mixes up the the war between the Worship god and the Fear gods and the war between Hequat serving as Teilekku's general and Ermeeth.

Each of those 3, along with Azuria's Paragon Times interview, all support each other and the timeline stated. They all have pieces to what happened but not the full story.

"According to Dr. Cheng, the Scroll of Tielekku tells the story of a prehistoric war between two pantheons of gods: a great alliance of man's first gods and a coalition of twisted gods who fed on death. It goes on to tell of how the goddess Tielekku first harnessed the power of magic, taught it to other gods and mortals, and used her power to trick and defeat the evil pantheon, banishing them to the spirit world. The scroll gives instructions for contacting Tielekku herself, should the pantheon she banished ever return to trouble the living world. Finally, it warns that this knowledge must never fall into the Banished Pantheon's hands, for they could use it to trap Tielekku and devour her. "

It seems to me that if we take this and add it to other parts... Teilekku learned magic before the Banished Pantheon event, became the leader of the alliance of "good pantheons" before, and also it seems to be that canabalism and death is a great way to get psychic energies and such which would fit with the rest of what has been said. Consumption also likely had energy increasing effects...

so it seems to me that because of the shortening of what azuria was talking about, the translation, and the sparse information makes the information mixed up a bit, but not too hard to figure out.

Here's the thing, Samuel, the arcs don't flat out tell you the full history. You need to procur it from several sources. Each source adds more information. Sometimes they are not about the thing your looking up information about, but still has the information.

Hequat being put in charge by Teilekku is from Azuria's Paragon Times interview. Nothing contradicts this and it makes sense since Teilekku was apparently the leader of the gods so there is no reason to dismiss it and further it is what I call T2 canon. (posted on the site officially and has not been contradicted in any way)

Same with a number of other things. This is partially why everything on CityofLore.com is being cited and sourced as much as i can.

OK, I finally got to read the article, and I'm more convinced than ever it really shouldn't be trusted too far. It seems like fan fiction on the order of "I serve the 5th Column!" more so than actual canon.

Ermeeth is said to have fled and formed the City of Oranbega in North America, contradicting Akharist's account of the Oranbegans themselves having fled "under one sea and across another. It also lists Hequat as creating the nation of Mu in the mid atlantic, when it's pretty clear the islands of the Mu, which are today's Rogue Isles (hence all the Mu ruins) are pretty much close to the US coastline. Furthermore, the "nation of Mu" was not created, nor did Hequat actually set out to create a separate nation. What she created was a sect within Oranbegan society which intended to force her will via revolt, as led by Mu'Rakhamet.

The only reason the islands of the Mu existed was because the Oranbegans drove the Mu out into the sea, assuming they'd have gone home, only to later turn out Hequat pulled them an island out of the sea.

I'd honestly stick to Akharist's writings and scroll translations than one lady's opinion on the matter. Specifically, since we have two other "experts" on magic both providing similar stories, both contradicting each other AND Azuria at the same time. I'm talking about Virgil Tarikoss and War Witch.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

You're right. My bad, I was wrong.

Still counts as mid atlantic as it's a relative word. anything in the atlantic is midatlantic though technically not the middle of the atlantic... but that doesn't stop us from calling a section of the US the mid atlantic region.

oh yeah, I had kind of forgotten Faultline seemed to have retconned the story around a bit when they revamped it. Brain fart.

but still, the CoT used to absolutely swarm over original faultline trying to cause a bigger quake. Think a CoT goal is to get the lost city of Orenbega un-buried.

Simply put, it's a way to engage the same tropes but ditch all the baggage the names have accumulated over the years.

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Originally Posted by eltonio This is over the top mental slavery.

Bingo. Tropes are important. Details are often hand-wavable within them. I think the Lore project is going to find a lot of stuff that's not really explainable simply because they're mimicking comic/fantasy tropes that never had real explanations to begin with.

And pseudo-science. Lots of lovely comic booky pseudo-science!

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